[xlover]

Originally Posted by Frank_NJ

My X3M Comp is actually faster and heavier

Heavier yes, faster no
Bmw figures:
M3 comp 0-60 3.8
X3m comp 0-60 4.0

Yes the x3m has been tested faster than BMWs time but we should expect the M3 to test faster as well. BMW sandbags their 0-60 times for all models

[DFW_M]

Both, M3 and M4 look better than expected. I actually like the G80.
Looks wise, G22 is the biggest failure IMO

[steker]

I was thinking what it would look like if those bars in the grill would have the colour of the body:



I think it tones down the grill a bit, but I don't know if it's good looking.

Colouring the grill surrounding on the 4 works a bit better:

[OF Hero]

What do we think the M Drive Professional package is? Didn't see a similar option in the X3M order guide.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by OF Hero

What do we think the M Drive Professional package is? Didn't see a similar option in the X3M order guide.

I'm thinking it's this:

New optional M Drive Professional:

Adds TRACK mode - deactivates comfort and safety functions as well as driver assistance systems; instrument cluster and optional Heads-Up Display switch to M View mode, switches off Control Display
M Traction Control system provides even greater adjustability to the DSC for different driving needs
M Drift Analyzer - records the duration, distance covered, line and angle of a drift with a rating shown on the Control Display
M Laptimer - records lap data, distance covered, and syncs data to mobile app from car's sensors such as speed, engine RPM, accelerator position

There's a wealth of information in the OP. Worth a read.

[John.K]

I'm guessing 7:29 - 7:30 on Comp variant. What's the best time achieved on the current M3 CS again?

[advantage20]

Getting strong sports sneaker vibes from that shape, color and all the black add-ons




Which isn't a bad thing per se - as car design inches closer to product design, cars look increasingly less like big heavy cumbersome metal blobs (which they basically are) and more like complex objects made of a variety of materials, enriched with intricate technical details, and yet an overall minimalistic cohesiveness with few colors and textures when viewed from a distance.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by John.K

I'm guessing 7:29 - 7:30 on Comp variant. What's the best time achieved on the current M3 CS again?

BMW quoted a 7:35 time for the M4cs.

G8X times should be close to that when shod with the optional PSC2.

[FrankieNuo]

The Exhaust is underwhelming to say the least.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFeT-NbK...d=76zqjjv10j0k

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFeSB1Lq...d=5eqql9d4a6on

[Hegge]

189 inches long is huge and longer than I thought (I figured "only" 187 inches). Also, peak torque on the Competition models does not come on until 2750 so probably poor low end torque and laggy at low speeds. These cars are overpriced crap.

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by zapp

Those new M4 Side Vents are as dysfunctional as BMWs 4-Series Design Team..

The car is also super heavy.. Actually this seems to be the new M6..
Let's just hope the next M2 remains small and gets lighter..

Based on the photos of the new G Series 2 Series, the M2 will also be longer so that means more weight as well. Plus no DCT transmission and production not in the mother country.

[Frank_NJ]

Originally Posted by xlover

Heavier yes, faster no
Bmw figures:
M3 comp 0-60 3.8
X3m comp 0-60 4.0

Yes the x3m has been tested faster than BMWs time but we should expect the M3 to test faster as well. BMW sandbags their 0-60 times for all models

True! I should have said non M3 comp!

[Roch M4]

What is this...they took a picture of a brand new car with a dirty seat?

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by Penguino

I think it lost all its elegance. Feel like they should offer a tone-down version of it.

Do we know if the non-comp version is a bit more tone down?

Feels like an M3 Type R, even more so when you add that ridiculous quad exhaust and wing.

Agree the elegance is lost...

What I loved about pre F80 M3s, and to some extent love about my M2, is that it was a sporty monster cloaked in a classy looking coupe/sedan with just a hint of aggressiveness. Sorta like driving around in a secret weapon.

Nothing classy about this design imo...just very bold and in your face. Not to say it's a bad thing, but it's not my preference and will take some getting used to.


Grill talk aside, I also think it looks weird to have 19" tires on the front and 20" on the back. It's even worse having 18" up front and 19" on the back. The lack of symmetry really bothers my OCD lol.

[Northstar1]

Here is a 100$ fix for mask: piece of black wrap.

[Ravenseal]

Here I thought this was going to be, while ugly as hell, AT LEAST lighter and faster than the 2SS 1LE I bought. Sigh. I guess I made the right choice when the leaks first came out. At least there’s always the M340i.

[kindafrosty]

That interior is miles above my F80 in terms of features and quality, very impressed. As for the outside... well, yeah...

The spec sheet says 285/30/20 in the rear but the demo vehicles are rocking a staggered wheel setup with 295/25/21 in the rear ... more power and less rubber?

[xlover]

Originally Posted by kindafrosty

That interior is miles above my F80 in terms of features and quality, very impressed. As for the outside... well, yeah...

The spec sheet says 285/30/20 in the rear but the demo vehicles are rocking a staggered wheel setup with 295/25/21 in the rear ... more power and less rubber?

(seen here

)

The gold 20/21in staggered wheels are from the M performance parts catalog. One of the other commenters who shot a vid with that car called it out

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by kindafrosty

That interior is miles above my F80 in terms of features and quality, very impressed. As for the outside... well, yeah...

The spec sheet says 285/30/20 in the rear but the demo vehicles are rocking a staggered wheel setup with 295/25/21 in the rear ... more power and less rubber?

That's the M-Performance wheels that are the 20"/21" combo with 285/30R20 front and 295/25R21 rear tires.

[Puuhapete]

Originally Posted by Hegge

189 inches long is huge and longer than I thought (I figured "only" 187 inches). Also, peak torque on the Competition models does not come on until 2750 so probably poor low end torque and laggy at low speeds. These cars are overpriced crap.

lower torque on an M3 is meaningless, I am only interested what happens on mid and high revs. I loved my S65 even though it had crap torque at lover revs.

[bmwjpn]

I'm out. Can't stomach this.

[OF Hero]

Originally Posted by Northstar1

Here is a 100$ fix for mask: piece of black wrap.

I can see a lot of people doing this, decent contrast on a lighter colored car will make the difference more noticeable. I'm also sure IND and other vendors will come up with other creative ideas for those are heartbroken over the grilles.