[SCOTT26]

I am in Frankfurt now. Observing VWs new mantra for its ID city car.
It's all about e-positivity folks
The environmentalists and Offended will not like that.

Mercedes have pulled off another inception with its building,within a building,within a building in a building.

[bmrm396]

Alright let's get this party started Scott. Bring on the pics!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I am in Frankfurt now. Observing VWs new mantra for its ID city car.
It's all about e-positivity folks
The environmentalists and Offended will not like that.

Mercedes have pulled off another inception with its building,within a building,within a building in a building.

Let's get this party started.

[SCOTT26]

Not long to go.
The official press release should in be your inbox now.
It's about to get crazy...

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Not long to go.
The official press release should in be your inbox now.
It's about to get crazy...

<doing the Scooby dance to this news>

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Where is this inbox that you speak of?!?

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Not long to go.
The official press release should in be your inbox now.
It's about to get crazy...

It isn't here

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global

[Auto]

Is the M3/M4 going official in Frankfurt?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Auto

Is the M3/M4 going official in Frankfurt?

No, just the 4 and possibly the i4. The reveal of the new 4 will provide us the first official look at the new design language. The M3/M4 will share the same grill design as the new 4 Series.

[clee1982]

Was hoping M3 would look like 3 instead of 4 in this case...

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

No, just the 4 and possibly the i4. The reveal of the new 4 will provide us the first official look at the new design language. The M3/M4 will share the same grill design as the new 4 Series.

Well it's not confirmed it'll be the exact same grill setup but the general idea that they're much larger yes, execution prolly just more aggressive and hopefully refined ha

I'm prolly nit picking semantics but it doesn't sound like an exact cut and paste from g22 to m3/m4 to me is what I mean

[montegoblue_e92]

BMW shared this 328 album on Facebook today...gonna go out on a limb here and say this is a hint!

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

Well it's not confirmed it'll be the exact same grill setup but the general idea that they're much larger yes, execution prolly just more aggressive and hopefully refined ha

I'm prolly nit picking semantics but it doesn't sound like an exact cut and paste from g22 to m3/m4 to me is what I mean

There's no business case for different grills here. Just as was the case last time, the M3 and M4 will share the grill and headlights with the 4 Series (and prior to that, the two-door 3 Series).

An important exercise to complete if you remain skeptical is to examine the grills of every single M Division product and try to find one that is not shared with a Series vehicle. Spoiler alert: there are none.

To be clear, the grill slats and or other content within the grill openings will differ as usual. But the grill-surround will be the same across the vehicles in question.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

An important exercise to complete if you remain skeptical is to examine the grills of every single M Division product and try to find one that is not shared with a Series vehicle. Spoiler alert: there are none.

The M2C has a different (larger) grill than the other 2 series cars (includign the original M2) I thought, or did they bump up the grill size for those as well?

It's a rather subtle change though so not saying you're wrong.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by mbanck

The M2C has a different (larger) grill than the other 2 series cars (includign the original M2) I thought, or did they bump up the grill size for those as well?

It's a rather subtle change though so not saying you're wrong.

They changed the grill design for the ///M2C (...in addition to the motor upgrade, seat upgrade, dash upgrade, etc. ). I'll have to double check. The ///M2 was completely overhauled.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by mbanck

The M2C has a different (larger) grill than the other 2 series cars (includign the original M2) I thought, or did they bump up the grill size for those as well?

It's a rather subtle change though so not saying you're wrong.

Actually, I did forget about one - you're correct. That was a first as far as I know (at least in recent history, if not all the way back to the original M5). But then the M2 itself is an outlier in more ways than one - it didn't get a unique engine until years after launch, and the 2 Series probably wasn't even conceived with the S55 in mind. So it stands to reason that they had to rework the front end to accommodate it. Prior to the M2 Competition, the M2 shared the grill with the 2 Series, including both the original and the LCI models.