[jmg]

Originally Posted by Miko M

I never lease which gives me a freedom to change them every 9 monts to a 1.5 years.

The price point doesn't effect me so I am fortunate to go much higher then the G80 price.

Understood. I think the GT4 would have to be a purchase. The F80 leases were just too good to pass up and I've been accustomed to the low exposure.

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by R N M

If you want BMW Manual- better hurry and order the M4 or M2.

Otherwise Porsche or American pony cars are ready to take your $$$$$.

I need to find E92 6mt - it will be shooting up in price over next few years.

I would consider M2 CS but it will be hard to get one.

I had both E90 and E92 and I have to say after tune it revs up to 9K
I absolutely loved it !!

[starbai]

I'm dying to see the front end of this car so badly...

[Alumac]

Originally Posted by R N M

If you want BMW Manual- better hurry and order the M4 or M2.

Otherwise Porsche or American pony cars are ready to take your $$$$$.

I need to find E92 6mt - it will be shooting up in price over next few years.

Right there with you. What would have been really cool, with all of the special editions for M3/M4, is if BMW released a revised S65 engine in one of them. Hell I’d take the original for a premium in a newer body.

I’m glad Porsche went naturally aspirated with the 718 GT4 for the engine, and did not do what bmw did with the m4 gts.

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by BMWModel3

Amen! Preach it brother! Me too! Now which model does Porsche make that's a $70k 500hp 4 door sedan with manual that leases for under $1k/month and free maintenance? I'm not too familiar with Porsche...

Ha, that's the problem. There is nothing the fits that mold that is a Porsche.

But since moving to the mountains, I've found there's 3-4 months out of the year I'm barely driving my M3. And I have a dedicated set of winter wheels for it, which work great, but it's not my ski sled, that's what the Jeep is for. Hence, maybe a more dedicated weekend/not winter car.

I've stayed away from Porsche, because IMHO, they are overpriced. Even a Cayman S I build is close to $20k more than what I paid for my M3 to get an equivalent build to what my M3 is.

[Adris]

I understand why BMW decided to do auto only, not sure how in USA, but at least in the UK they only sold a few MT. I also asked my local dealer, how many M4/M3 they sold with MT, they said only very few in 4 years time

[M3GymNut]

This is a sad day indeed.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by BMWModel3

Personally I have no desire for a 3rd weekend car I'll hardly drive and still have to pay insurance and registration for. Plus that 4cyl. Porsche or not 4cyl no thanks. Double plus, Porsche's money factors are hilariously high like 7%. Porsche does a good job at gate keeping poor people out.

Like I said, the GT4 car is a car to buy, not lease. Their rates are horrible. I would not want a 3rd weekend either. My M3 CS would have to go. Both the 981 and 718 GT4 are both flat 6's however! I'm not a fan of the 4 banger 718, despite the fact that they probably drive great. The 981 is my Cayman of choice.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Ha, that's the problem. There is nothing the fits that mold that is a Porsche.

But since moving to the mountains, I've found there's 3-4 months out of the year I'm barely driving my M3. And I have a dedicated set of winter wheels for it, which work great, but it's not my ski sled, that's what the Jeep is for. Hence, maybe a more dedicated weekend/not winter car.

I've stayed away from Porsche, because IMHO, they are overpriced. Even a Cayman S I build is close to $20k more than what I paid for my M3 to get an equivalent build to what my M3 is.

I'm honestly so lost right now. The M3 used to check so many boxes, now I don't know what to do. Porsche is just so expensive in up front costs, and I want to DRIVE it, not baby it to keep the residual high. I think a used 981 is the way to go, but I have that itch for the latest and greatest. Honestly the new mid-engine Corvette is close to being undeniable at this point. I've never been a huge fan of the Corvette, but maybe this one will change my mind.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by BMWModel3

Oh yea GT4 would be completely different story. Maybe if I had a 3 car garage and saved up driving a cheap daily beater all these years instead of leasing BMWs lol.

I have a 3 car garage, but the third spot is for the wife and I don't like to keep any cars out in the elements! Maybe she wouldn't object to me installing a lift!

[secretanchitman]

Yep this definitely confirms my decision of going F82 M4 6MT!

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by jmg

I'm honestly so lost right now. The M3 used to check so many boxes, now I don't know what to do. Porsche is just so expensive in up front costs, and I want to DRIVE it, not baby it to keep the residual high. I think a used 981 is the way to go, but I have that itch for the latest and greatest. Honestly the new mid-engine Corvette is close to being undeniable at this point. I've never been a huge fan of the Corvette, but maybe this one will change my mind.

Seriously. Your CS is beautiful though. I build a Porsche on the website at least once every 2 weeks. Then I see the price.

At least there is still some of us over at NASIOC that are trying to hold on.

[mhjeep]

This is exactly why I bought one of the last F80 M3s. I had a sinking suspicion that this gen was the end of an era.

I was mainly basing this on BMW sharing more platforms and with the G80 potentially being a mini F90, I thought there is no way a manual is coming.

[JustChris]

This is all a tease from BMW (not the OP I feel). No way they will hold back the manual unless they have had some genuine technical problems with S58 Torque etc etc?

[Habber]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Between the horrible looking renders and no MT option...

Porsche it is I guess

As if Porsche was always the "second option..."

Nice.

[m981addicts]

Nice.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Habber

As if Porsche was always the "second option..."

Nice.

The second 'economical' option that is.

[M3GymNut]

Looks like BMW will continue the manual....in the M2. BMW should try to build the future of the M2 with the history of the M3.

[Ghostriderf80]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Looks like BMW will continue the manual....in the M2. BMW should try to build the future of the M2 with the history of the M3.

Car looks so fad

[10"]

no manual?

RIP M3. Literally.

[SpaceCoupe_GT]

The grilles look fake underneath all that camo

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by Habber

As if Porsche was always the "second option..."

Nice.

Honestly, Porsche was never really an option.

I wanted four doors, something I would track, a fast DD.

That is not Porsche. Haven't seen many a Panamera even at an autox.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

No manual transmission M3 would be a blow to the entire M brand and enthusiast image. Talk about the last straw.

I see one way out of this for BMW.

G80 M3 - AWD
G82 M4- AWD
G87 M2- RWD - aka " pure"
G85 M2- SEDAN/GRAN COUPE - RWD - aka "Pure"

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Looks like BMW will continue the manual....in the M2. BMW should try to build the future of the M2 with the history of the M3.

See above... And I agree... I don't mind if the successor has a 2 series badge - A sedan is still needed.

Originally Posted by Miko M

I would consider M2 CS but it will be hard to get one.

I had both E90 and E92 and I have to say after tune it revs up to 9K
I absolutely loved it !!

already looking for E90 M3 sedan....

Originally Posted by R N M

If you want BMW Manual- better hurry and order the M4 or M2.

Otherwise Porsche or American pony cars are ready to take your $$$$$.

I need to find E92 6mt - it will be shooting up in price over next few years.

Leave the ones that are black for me !

Originally Posted by Jockey

Honestly, Porsche was never really an option.

I wanted four doors, something I would track, a fast DD.

That is not Porsche. Haven't seen many a Panamera even at an autox.

Agree... not only am I tired of the " going Porsche " theme... When have they made a compact sedan? NEVER.