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Hate it all you want, but the DCT has character and gives you a connection to the car that the ZF will NEVER give.
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02052018, 07:26 PM  #333  
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I agree, why does each generation keeps getting bigger?? People aren’t growing at an alarming rate!! The e90 size should have been it size wise. 

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If you chose to ignore the numerous dyno charts, look at the average 1/4 times and speeds for the two generations. There is a 5 mph rough difference between them (110112mph to 115118mph). That is not the work of 11BHP from the official documentation. I've owned both cars, and the F80 is substantially faster, on and off the track. I expect the G80 to be again as much faster, regardless what dummy HP numbers they will advertise for it.
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Lol that's exactly the point us 6MT guys had. . . The 6MT has character and gives you a connection that NO automatic transmission will ever give. It is pretty funny seeing the shoe on the other foot now.
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But if you want to believe they gave you free HP and like underselling their cars then what ever makes you happy.
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Here is an example from K&N's dyno 

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All the experts are out in force I see, another corrected dyno run on a self correcting turbo engine. Wheel Dynos are good for one thing showing the delta before and after tuning nothing else. so your M4 loses 120hp between the crank and the wheels if you think it's making 480hp at the crank....OK. Go bench test an engine like BMW do and then come back with the results, but you don't need to as they have already done it and went out of their way to explain why the peak hp number didn't matter in relation to the outgoing e92 on launch due to the fact that the S55 makes more power everywhere and sustains it. Why would they do that when they had launched a 480hp replacement?
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So  414 hp is 97.4% of 425. Is the S65 97.4% as powerful as the S55 at all rpm ranges? Of course not. The S65 at 8300 rpm is 97.4% as powerful as the S55 is from 55007300 rpm. So  it is only for that very brief, discrete RPM point of 8300 rpm that the S65 is close to the S55 in power. But when the S65 is at 5,000 rpm, 6,000 rpm, 7,000 rpm  the S65 is not even close to 97.4% of the horsepower level of the S55. Once should look at: 1) the wheel horsepower of the S65 AT 8300 RPM vs. the S55 between 55007300 rpm; and 2) also while considering the S55 is FI. If both factors 1) and 2) are properly factored in, I'll bet the S65 at 8300 rpm is in fact 97.4% wheel horsepower (or close) to the S55, but the farther below 8,300 rpm the S65 is, the more noticeable of a horsepower gap there will be vs. the S55... 

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The G80 M3 has finally hit the Nurburgring and the test drivers definitely weren't taking it easy on the G80 for its first time out  check out the glowing rotors!
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Wow that exhaust is the same ugly exhaust that was recently posted in the M2 Competition spy pictures.
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