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Thats a very confident statement... market demographics are quickly changing across the board... I am a RWD guy... but if there is say a 100 lb penalty and I can still retain RWD drift mode in the AWD car... well...
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All this talk of model years is basically nothing but this stupid American exceptionalism. The basic processes at BMW have nothing to do with model years. Each year, there are three points at which new products can be introduced. For European plants, those points are the first days of March, July, or November. When you go and buy a car, you just get the model you want, and depending on the specific car's production date, you get certain features or you don't. There's no model year. Even the VIN always has a zero in that position.
Model years only become relevant when BMW sells its products in the markets that actually care about them: US, Canada, China, a few other Asian countries, Middle East, maybe some other places I can't remember. There, all the bureaucracy is built around annual revisions, so what BMW does is just takes the version of the car that will be in effect when the new MY for that model should start, and that's what is sold throughout the year. And sometimes that means delaying the product because if production starts at one of the three available revision dates in the calendar year, but the model year is at a different one of those three dates, it may be easier to wait and not release a new model only to make revisions to it (with all the required paperwork and whatever else NHTSA wants) 4 months later. |
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I'm sure no one will want a RWD M car. lol
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Not necessarily. AWD is faster off the line but slower from a roll. Looking at recent 992 C2S vs C4S acceleration times shows exactly that (don't ask why I am looking at 992 stats... )
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Rolling Resistance... but nothing a quick front wheel disconnect and a tune cant fix ... also no one would complain about a 992.
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Not in the sense we understand them in the US. Obviously the production date matters both for resale and for understanding the exact configuration of the car, but this semi-arbitrary separation of a continuous output of car plants into buckets does not exist.
It may be useful here to compare this with the Tesla approach, which is the closest to the absence of model years you can get while still remaining compliant with all the federal requirements. Due to those requirements, Teslas sold in the US still have model years, but unless you know the exact date of production you can never tell exactly what's under the specific car's skin. |
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Even if the front wheels are decoupled from the transmission, they still need to spin the front drivetrain (drive shafts, CV joints, differential). In that 2WD mode, only the transmission of power to the front wheels is eliminated, all the other disadvantages remain.
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https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...0#post26602910 That shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone who’s paid attention to the G22. The M440i xDrive weighs in at 3977lbs. Furthermore, given what we know about BMW, the advertised weights often fall on the optimistic side. So it’s not a light car - neither in AWD nor RWD form. But, having the option to go with the latter will be appreciated by folks looking to at least keep the thing from ticking up past 4000 lbs. (Note: if you’d like to discuss the vehicle weight more, please use the linked thread.) |
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I am surprised there is no Xdrive/6MT option even with less HP. Was it too difficult to engineer, too expensive to produce, no business case...can you explain why there is no Xdrive/6MT? Thanks. |
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