10-14-2020, 06:58 AM | #1 |
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M xDrive replaces RWD in Switzerland?
I asked my BMW sales VP when the xDrive version will be available and what the price difference is between RWD and AWD. They told me that, in EU, the Competition will be available around March 2021 and the RWD version will be replaced by the xDrive version.
Maybe this is false, but it might even be consistent like the M5/M8. Why I should buy a RWD version instead of the xDrive version that can switch to RWD? I don't think the real reason is only the weight 30/40 Kg. |
10-14-2020, 07:26 AM | #3 |
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An AWD car is heavier, carries more weight on the front axle and has more drivetrain loss and inertia (even if the the FWD is decoupled, all those extra components still need to turn and churn), which all contribute to make the car slower and less agile once rolling. Further, not everyone is willing to pay the extra money for that extra launch grip.
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I think it is safe to conclude that there is absolutely no chance - none, zip, zero - that BMW will bring the RWD vehicle to market for a few short months only to discontinue it. That simply does not make even the tiniest bit of sense.
We know SOP for the AWD model is July 2021, so if you want AWD, you'll have to wait until then. |
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10-14-2020, 09:30 AM | #5 |
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for sure I have to wait .. The point is if I can wait since I can't stand X4MC .. Too heavy and tall, meaningless car. I made a wrong purchase ...
We hope there will be some news within the next 2/3 months |
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They recently weighed the 991 4s vs the s and it was 180lb, 82kg. You can be sure the M3 will show at least that same delta. If you're going to haul around the weight of an AWD system you might as well take advantage of the increased traction. It would make no sense whatsoever to have a car with the weight and components of AWD and then run it in RWD when you can buy the same car at a lower price, +80kg lighter and with fewer components that break |
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10-14-2020, 11:44 AM | #8 |
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CanAutM3 said all that need to be said on this subject.
- AWD cost more. ( Purchase and maintenance). - AWD add drive train inertia. - AWD impact weight and weight distribution negatively. That said, in locations like CH with it’s awesome driving roads you want to be on the best performance tires as long as possible but also have AWD traction for surprise snow and cold temperatures across passes I can see AWD take rate being near 100% making RWD obsolete once AWD is available. |
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RWD or AWD It depends where you live. RWD for me can be fine but unfortunately from November to March we have lot of snow on the street , this is the reason that I'm looking for AWD . I must wait .. On the market there aren't any new alternative on this segment . |
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I have family in Switzerland. Winter tires are mandatory at least in Zurich in winter but people swap tires afterwards.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in some countries that see lots of snow. But it won't be a worldwide thing.
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In areas like most of Canada with a lot of snow but a more well defined snow season you can do just fine with winter tires. |
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Believe me, experience teaches that in RWD with snow you can have the best with winter tires, but when you encounter a slightly uphill road and you accidentally stop to restart, better leave the car at home. Winter tires are fine on RWD car are fine on motorway and flat city area . If you live on montain palce is very hard . I use to drive my car every weekend from December to March on montain for ski reason and from were I live to the main city is 500/600 from sea level to 200 from the sea level . RWD is fine and good idea if the 90% of your daily drive is on flat city , but if 90% is made of uphill roads better AWD . |
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yea agree with solstice .. if you just drive around in urban enviornments that's not hilly, (i.e. no ski trips or no cottage trips) RWD is fine provided you put on good winter tires.. I've had AWD cars for most of my driving life, and can't really recall many situations where having it really saved me in the city. Most common situation you'd need it is if snow plow just went by the side street or outdoor parking lot and there's some snow piled up in front of your spot. But at that point you need both ground clearance + AWD and prob a shovel too
OP looks like chris harris talked about the same point as you... in your markets it's needed
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