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      01-19-2023, 04:54 AM   #133
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I agree the current consensus is 1 M3 CS per dealer. The total production number I suggested in my post (~4500) corresponds to the # of BMW dealers in the world, assuming 1 car each (https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...?language=en). Obviously, BMW may have a different policy for dealers outside the US. We'll see!
I don't see how it would be possible that they would build twice as many as the M2CS's reported 2200 cars.

But stranger things have happened so I'll wait and see
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      01-19-2023, 05:04 AM   #134
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How this will drive will be the key thing. F8x CSs didn’t get their due attention for better or worse.

Brilliant colour for this car. BMW wins hands down for their colour palette. Genius!
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      01-19-2023, 05:10 AM   #135
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BMW is just diluting the G80X model line.

It's kind of a joke at this point.

CSL / CS / Jahre / Kith
100%. Don't forget base vs Competition. PLUS the strengthening of M-perf models, which are blurring the lines with real M cars. E.g., M engine in the new M60i models, the same trans, LSDs in M340i, M mirrors, etc

M is a spectrum now. It does not represent pinnacle of BMW.

The CS models are now the most appealing models to me. They are only ones that offer what all M card used to have - steering feel, great chassis and suspension tuning, etc. All largely done through software. In that sense, CS are the main models I'd consider. However, the pricing means they're no longer competitive.

This approach works well as a business strategy and for mainstream buyers, but at the expense of true driving enthusiasts.
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Regarding this M3 CS, looks fine but ultimately comes down to how it drives, which can only be assessed by driving it. The CS magic is in the tuning, not mechanical differences. I'm optimistic based on recent CS models.
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I’m well informed on the BMW lineup.

Does this look like the same iDrive as a 330?
I believe the original comment was about the screen and integration, not the graphics. ID8 graphics are generally well received.

Personally, my issue is with the poor usability rather than aesthetic. Objectively, it massively increases the time required to perform basic functions while driving, regardless of whether you like it or not.
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      01-19-2023, 06:07 AM   #138
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Maybe I’m getting old but not feeling the signal green.
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At 1 per dealer these will be expensive. The F80 CS was overproduced so they sat on lots and then leased out cheap. That made it easy to get one new. Now 4 years later there is a wide mix of wrecked, used as a daily, track focused, modded, clean low mileage, and a few collector grade cars. Not sure how this will play out with about half as many G CS cars but guessing more split among track focused and weekend driver collectors.
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At 1 per dealer these will be hard to get and expensive. The F80 CS was overproduced so they sat on lots and then leased out cheap. That made it easy to get one new. Now 4 years later there is a wide mix of wrecked, used as a daily, track focused, modded, clean low mileage, and a few collector grade cars. Not sure how this will play out with about half as many G CS cars but guessing more split among track focused and weekend driver collectors.
Car market is in a rediculus state partly because of all the social media "fake" enthousiasts, a friend just showed me a civic type R with 500km (used state here in Canada) trying to be sold for 35k over its MSRP.

YouTube is flooded with ppl doing whatever they can to have views, they probably can't even change there own oil in there car.
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Maybe I’m getting old but not feeling the signal green.
Especially with the red accents.
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Car market is in a rediculus state because of all the social media "fake" enthousiasts, a friend just showed me a civic type R with 500km (used state here in Canada) trying to be sold for 35k over its MSRP.

YouTube is flooded with ppl doing whatever they can to have views, they probably can't even change there own oil in there car.
This sums it up, everyone is trying to monetize their car purchases with social content. It’s completely turned me off on car culture.
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I still can't make up my mind if this is a running joke or if the mentality across the pond is so different.

I can't understand the urge of having to drink from a spill able cup in a car, even less in a sports car (it defeat the purpose if you have to drive the car like a boat) and even less in the track focused version of it. Then again we don't have that many long straights here in normal commute.
Most Europeans who haven't been to a country with a massive land mass (US, Canada, Russia, etc) just don't have a concept of the scale and distances involved. The Chicago metro area is over 1/3 the size of Ireland, but only 1/6 of the state of Illinois, itself only the 24th largest state in the US.

This summer, I will be taking my son to a number of sports tournaments. One is local--45 minutes away. One is not terribly far into our neighboring state of Indiana--3.5-4 hours. The third is on the Deleware/New Jersey border--13-15 hours away

Don't begrudge me my cupholders. .
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Remember all the fuzz here about the the M5 CS before release - too heavy, too expensive, not gonna drive better than the Comp, no Burmester only Harmon, few colors to choose from?
What happened? The car was overpraised by motor journalists and M CEO in an interview was clearly proud of it - as he should be. Yes, it was expensive but almost every option was included. And pricewise its holding up extremely well. I regret saying no to my dealer who was kind enough to reach out to me.

Lets give the M3 CS a chance and hope its a proper Jr. M5 CS.

And finally, regarding dilution of the M3/M4 with a few Limited production runs: Lets be thankful that we’re been giving these options. When Mercedes bring a Final Edition C63s, they only slab Final Edition emblems on it. That’s it! At least BMW has given thougts to was else to improve for better performance, looks and ride quality. And if thats not enough, M Performance Parts has you covered.

So much want for this new M3 CS. Thanks, BMW.
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I don’t care how obnoxious a Signal Green CS would look in my work parking lot.. I want it.

I’m confident this is going to be an incredible trim on the G80. It’s going to be good.
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Remember all the fuzz here about the the M5 CS before release - too heavy, too expensive, not gonna drive better than the Comp, no Burmester only Harmon, few colors to choose from?
What happened? The car was overpraised by motor journalists and M CEO in an interview was clearly proud of it - as he should be. Yes, it was expensive but almost every option was included. And pricewise its holding up extremely well. I regret saying no to my dealer who was kind enough to reach out to me.

Lets give the M3 CS a chance and hope its a proper Jr. M5 CS.

And finally, regarding dilution of the M3/M4 with a few Limited production runs: Lets be thankful that we’re been giving these options. When Mercedes bring a Final Edition C63s, they only slab Final Edition emblems on it. That’s it! At least BMW has given thougts to was else to improve for better performance, looks and ride quality. And if thats not enough, M Performance Parts has you covered.

So much want for this new M3 CS. Thanks, BMW.
Ah a sensible comment - facts. I love my S4 but Audi isnt doing anything like this. Only audi Id consider in the future is an R8…and they’re getting rid of that too!
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Ah a sensible comment - facts. I love my S4 but Audi isnt doing anything like this. Only audi Id consider in the future is an R8…and they’re getting rid of that too!
R8 Decennium would be nice - in matt Daytona with gold anodized valve covers. Love it!
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Where can I see all of the Competition models compete?
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Love the 'please give me a ticket' green.. talk about going stealth eh?

M5 CS MSRP was $142k
M4 CSL MSRP was $138k

Me thinks that this will probably start somewhere between $125k-$130k
Selfishly I’m hoping it starts at $145k+…will put upward pressure on the M5 CS. I think the M4 CSL will hold its own…M5 CS can use all the help it can get to keep prices up.

But I agree, I think you are right at the $125-$130 range.
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Selfishly I’m hoping it starts at $145k+…will put upward pressure on the M5 CS. I think the M4 CSL will hold its own…M5 CS can use all the help it can get to keep prices up.

But I agree, I think you are right at the $125-$130 range.
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Yes. Minus the mullet. My wife would have none of that, it only lasted a day.
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Lol…legendary!
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Most Europeans who haven't been to a country with a massive land mass (US, Canada, Russia, etc) just don't have a concept of the scale and distances involved. The Chicago metro area is over 1/3 the size of Ireland, but only 1/6 of the state of Illinois, itself only the 24th largest state in the US.

This summer, I will be taking my son to a number of sports tournaments. One is local—45 minutes away. One is not terribly far into our neighboring state of Indiana—3.5-4 hours. The third is on the Deleware/New Jersey border—13-15 hours away

Don't begrudge me my cupholders. .
Can tell you are from Chicago as we measure distance by time and not mileage 😂

But I have same situation, two kids in travel sports and will be taking my M3, can’t imagine not having coffee for a 45 minute drive to a 8am game (leaving at 6am)
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