[Jonathanjpalermo]

Originally Posted by Anderson11

Does not matter. I just ordered EBC Reds for the rear wheels and will compare with the OEM pads up front. Have heard EBC Reds are not as low dust as advertised so this will be a low cost experiment. If there is a big difference with the rears I will go ahead and get EBC Reds for the front when they become available.

The reds are super low dust. I’ve been told it’s the yellows that are still pretty dusty. The reds are as good as the Isweep in regards to dust.

[Neles]

I've had my IS1500 fronts for about 200 miles now. I had EBC yellows (kept the rears). So far the isweeps have ZERO noise and significantly less dust. I can't tell much difference in braking performance. Very pleased so far.

[LuckyBrand]

Originally Posted by Neles

I've had my IS1500 fronts for about 200 miles now. I had EBC yellows (kept the rears). So far the isweeps have ZERO noise and significantly less dust. I can't tell much difference in braking performance. Very pleased so far.

What's the difference in dusting in your experience from yellows to isweeps?

[Neles]

Originally Posted by LuckyBrand

What's the difference in dusting in your experience from yellows to isweeps?

The dusting seems to be almost non existent compared to the yellows. The yellows were OEM dust and just as noisy.

[vbb]

I finally got around to installing these with a few local G8X buddies after having them sit in my garage for 4 months. Install was fairly straightforward, and if I was going for time and not socializing (which is far less fun) I think all four corners could be done in under 2hrs easy. I've only driven 20mi or so, but feel is essentially like stock and squeal is completely gone. I took the opportunity while the wheels were off the car to clean the barrels, so we'll see how much less dusting I get, but I'm optimistic. Anything less than OEM is a win. I reused my brake wear sensors so I didn't need to install the extra set I bought. And although there was nothing said about bedding them in, I did a series of 60-0mph stops to be sure, and again, bite is very similar to stock. Maybe slightly less, but I can't tell for sure. In normal driving, you can't feel the difference at all. The lack of squeal alone makes this worthwhile to me, but I'm looking forward to less dusting as well. They're more expensive than other options, but all in all, I'm happy (again, 20 miles in anyway).

(Rears purchased and installed but not pictured)

[DRAGM3]

Originally Posted by vbb

I finally got around to installing these with a few local G8X buddies after having them sit in my garage for 4 months. Install was fairly straightforward, and if I was going for time and not socializing (which is far less fun) I think all four corners could be done in under 2hrs easy. I've only driven 20mi or so, but feel is essentially like stock and squeal is completely gone. I took the opportunity while the wheels were off the car to clean the barrels, so we'll see how much less dusting I get, but I'm optimistic. Anything less than OEM is a win. I reused my brake wear sensors so I didn't need to install the extra set I bought. And although there was nothing said about bedding them in, I did a series of 60-0mph stops to be sure, and again, bite is very similar to stock. Maybe slightly less, but I can't tell for sure. In normal driving, you can't feel the difference at all. The lack of squeal alone makes this worthwhile to me, but I'm looking forward to less dusting as well. They're more expensive than other options, but all in all, I'm happy (again, 20 miles in anyway).


(Rears purchased and installed but not pictured)

What area did you use to lift the car?
Did you use bimmerlink to place the car in service mode for the rear change?

[vbb]

Originally Posted by DRAGM3

What area did you use to lift the car?
Did you use bimmerlink to place the car in service mode for the rear change?

There's a center jack point in the front of the car which is where it is jacked up in the picture above. That point will get the car high enough off of the ground that jack stands can be placed on each of the front corners and allow you to deal with the fronts. For the rears, I did one side at a time. If you jack from the side jack point in the front, the chassis is stiff enough that you can get the car high enough off of the ground to put a jack stand on the rear corner on the same side.

And yes, the car was placed in service mode with bimmerlink for the rear pad changes.

[fanofbmwe46]

Originally Posted by vbb

There's a center jack point in the front of the car which is where it is jacked up in the picture above. That point will get the car high enough off of the ground that jack stands can be placed on each of the front corners and allow you to deal with the fronts. For the rears, I did one side at a time. If you jack from the side jack point in the front, the chassis is stiff enough that you can get the car high enough off of the ground to put a jack stand on the rear corner on the same side.

And yes, the car was placed in service mode with bimmerlink for the rear pad changes.

Do you think jacking from front side to get rear side tire off the ground is bad in anyway? Does it strain/flex the chassis too much? Supposedly the proper rear center jack point for both sides is the rear diff.

[vbb]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Do you think jacking from front side to get rear side tire off the ground is bad in anyway? Does it strain/flex the chassis too much? Supposedly the proper rear center jack point for both sides is the rear diff.

Do I think so? No. The front side is also a proper jack point, and in the 10 seconds or so it is high enough that the rear jack stand can be placed and the car can be let back down I don't think that puts too much flex on the chassis at all. In fact, I personally feel better doing it that way than putting that load on the rear diff, even though I know the manual says that's ok too.

[LuckyBrand]

Originally Posted by DRAGM3

What area did you use to lift the car?
Did you use bimmerlink to place the car in service mode for the rear change?

I used the center jack point in the front and the rear diff in the back and put all 4 points on jack stands. I used a 2x4 under the rear diff. Went fine. I did have to initially put all 4 tires on 2x4's as well even though I have a low profile jack. So yes it's a little more work to get all 4 tires in the air at the same time but once it's up it's sturdy and quick to do all 4 brakes.

On the rear electronic parking brakes I just used the 9 volt battery trick with some 14 gauge speaker wire I had. Worked fine.

[DRAGM3]

Originally Posted by LuckyBrand

I used the center jack point in the front and the rear diff in the back and put all 4 points on jack stands. I used a 2x4 under the rear diff. Went fine. I did have to initially put all 4 tires on 2x4's as well even though I have a low profile jack. So yes it's a little more work to get all 4 tires in the air at the same time but once it's up it's sturdy and quick to do all 4 brakes.

On the rear electronic parking brakes I just used the 9 volt battery trick with some 14 gauge speaker wire I had. Worked fine.

Thank you brother, will be doing that brake job this upcoming week.

[DRAGM3]

Originally Posted by vbb

There's a center jack point in the front of the car which is where it is jacked up in the picture above. That point will get the car high enough off of the ground that jack stands can be placed on each of the front corners and allow you to deal with the fronts. For the rears, I did one side at a time. If you jack from the side jack point in the front, the chassis is stiff enough that you can get the car high enough off of the ground to put a jack stand on the rear corner on the same side.

And yes, the car was placed in service mode with bimmerlink for the rear pad changes.

Thanks brother

[DRAGM3]

When changing brake pads i had the rear sensor on do I need to also change front pads , i mean is it recommended to do front and back or can be done depending on which one is worned out?

[vbb]

Originally Posted by DRAGM3

When changing brake pads i had the rear sensor on do I need to also change front pads , i mean is it recommended to do front and back or can be done depending on which one is worned out?

You can do just fronts or just rears...so if your rears are worn down but your fronts aren't (which would be a bit unusual, but possible), you can just replace them.

[DRAGM3]

Originally Posted by vbb

You can do just fronts or just rears...so if your rears are worn down but your fronts aren't (which would be a bit unusual, but possible), you can just replace them.

Thank you, did talk to an advisor told me it was ok to just do the rears.
My rears were worn out from a HPDE weekend. Front held on pretty good.

[vbb]

Update:

I just wanted to check back in for a 2 week update. My only regret is I didn't do this as soon as I bought my car. These pads are a game-changer. I don't feel any difference at all in my brake feel. Same bite whether I'm doing a hard stop or just commuting. It has taken me practically the whole two weeks to stop slightly wincing when I creep to a stop, expecting the high-pitched squealing I had come to know. There hasn't been a single peep. And the dusting? While they still dust slightly, it's just as others have reported... the dust is of a different quality. It's a lighter colored dust that doesn't stick to everything and it is much, much less. I have less dusting in a week from driving then I did in a day with the OEM pads. Plus, with the black 826M wheel, it's nice that they aren't brown mostly all the time.

I highly recommend doing it if anyone else is sitting on the fence.

[31shifter]

Update from me as well, ^^ agree completely.

The dust is now minimal, so much so that after 1000 miles of daily driving it’s barely noticeable. I do sense a slightly higher brake pedal force to stop than what I’m used to, so might try the iSWEEP 2000 next time. But the 1500’s still perform well in stopping distance by seat of the pants feel.

zero noise and insignificant dust with the 1500’s, a step-function improvement over OEM.

[FrozenGT]

Dude, don’t use Armorall from 1985 on your M4. 😖

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

Dude, don’t use Armorall from 1985 on your M4. 😖

I use pledge...

[Reprosal]

Originally Posted by DRAGM3

Thank you, did talk to an advisor told me it was ok to just do the rears.
My rears were worn out from a HPDE weekend. Front held on pretty good.

Wait, your isweep 1500's only lasted a weekend for that? I am worried about regular daily driving length now on mine with spirited driving (the odd slowdown from 90mph to 55 in a crunch.

[m4ml]

Originally Posted by 31shifter

Update from me as well, ^^ agree completely.

The dust is now minimal, so much so that after 1000 miles of daily driving it’s barely noticeable. I do sense a slightly higher brake pedal force to stop than what I’m used to, so might try the iSWEEP 2000 next time. But the 1500’s still perform well in stopping distance by seat of the pants feel.

zero noise and insignificant dust with the 1500’s, a step-function improvement over OEM.

I feel the exact same way. Under normal braking it seems like the pedal requires more force. For example slowing to a stop light. It seems to be up to a certain point though. Once that point is reached though the brakes stop quick! For example, slowing at a stop light, but you didn't give it enough brake and you're not stopping fast enough so you push down harder and then it brakes much harder, but actually more "normal".

It's hard to explain, but I'll likely be looking at the 2000's as well next time.

(I did wonder if it was partially because a proper bedding was not done)

[vbb]

5 months and however many miles update is more of the same for me. I continue to wish I had done this the first day I got the car, and can't believe I put up with the excessive dusting and squealing from the stock pads for so long. I get it, high performance cars need high performance brakes, and dusting and noise are part of the package. That said, I don't have any plans on tracking my car, and these pads have handled spirited drives, one 500+ mile round trip through the mountains, regular commuting use, and one emergency braking situation where I was cut off without a single issue. I haven't heard a squeal since I installed them, and the dusting is way, way down.

10/10 would buy again.