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      04-14-2022, 11:40 AM   #23
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Being both ADD and impatient, I couldn't deal with the 6-8 month wait. I was actually first in line for the new rs3 at a dealer - just canceled, as all signs point to that car not being available until 2023

Net - wrapped my head around this market quickly. I paid $5k over sticker for the exact car I wanted, picking it up next week. As loathe as I was to do it, this is the market. That premium isn't a special case, it's just pay to play right now, and I can deal with that.
I'm with you. I found the exact build that I want on the lot for 20k over sticker. Negotiated that to 15 and now to 10 and they won't budge. So torn on what to do.
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      04-14-2022, 07:49 PM   #24
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Feel like I've called every dealer in NJ, getting stymied. Went to circle in Edison today, ready to buy on the spot even if nearish to msrp. 10k markup, and "we can't go below 7k". They literally did not care when I walked out.
Circle is in Eatontown. Open Road is in Edison.

Talked to a sales manager today, a $92k M4 with 1000 miles was listed at $108k at Manheim. He offered $100k, but they wouldn't sell for less than 102k.

When I ordered mine in July '21 I effectively bought it at 1000 below sticker- BMW Loyalty rebate and $500 from CCA.
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Circle is in Eatontown. Open Road is in Edison.

Talked to a sales manager today, a $92k M4 with 1000 miles was listed at $108k at Manheim. He offered $100k, but they wouldn't sell for less than 102k.

When I ordered mine in July '21 I effectively bought it at 1000 below sticker- BMW Loyalty rebate and $500 from CCA.
Sorry, you're absolutely right. Was a bit bleary-eyed after about 50 phone calls to what felt like every dealership in a 75 mile radius heh. I meant open road.
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      04-16-2022, 05:05 PM   #26
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I got my g80 through Danny at Circle BMW at msrp. I did order in Nov though
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      05-06-2022, 10:49 AM   #27
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Just wanted to see if anyone had any updates on dealers in the area willing to do MSRP? And, if so, what their waitlists look like currently?

I have currently have 2 NJ dealers willing to do MSRP, but both have waitlists.

One of them, BMW of Tenafly, has 8 people and is not an M Certified Dealer. No sense of how many allocations they get per month, and how long it would take to actually get an allocation through them.

The other, Paul Miller BMW, has fewer people on their list, but they are also not an M Certified Dealer. They claim they move through their list fairly quickly, but I'm not certain that's true. The downside here is that they will make you purchase a few BS extras ($299 etching theft deterrent, $700 BMW Ultimate Plus Maintenance upgrade, $1,499 Ceramic Coating). The maintenance plan might be of some value, but the ceramic coating I could definitely have it done for about 1/2 that price, and the etching is worthless. So, that is basically the same as a $2,499 markup as far as I'm concerned.

Danny at Circle normally would do MSRP. However, because I bought a car from another sales guy, apparently it's their dealer's policy to require me to work with him again instead of Danny, even though Danny is the M Advisor and is supposed to get all M clients. And, of course, the sales manager that the regular sales guy reports into is insisting on a markup, even though I wouldn't have had to pay one if I were never their customer to begin with. Really turning me off from this dealership - truly terrible service and apparently zero regard for goodwill and customer loyalty.
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      05-06-2022, 10:54 AM   #28
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Flemington BMW, BMW Princeton should both be at MSRP.

Not sure of their waitlist though
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Flemington BMW, BMW Princeton should both be at MSRP.

Not sure of their waitlist though
Awesome, thanks! Do you happen to have any specific SA's you've worked with at either place?
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      05-06-2022, 01:04 PM   #30
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Awesome, thanks! Do you happen to have any specific SA's you've worked with at either place?
I'm working with Evan at Princeton BMW. He's pretty knowledgeable, I'd definitely recommend him. When I went back in December they had no waitlist, so I was #1. Ended up getting an allocation in just 1 month at MSRP. Not certain they're still at MSRP, though. They started charging $2500 over on M cars in February, so not sure if they're still doing that.
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I'm working with Evan at Princeton BMW. He's pretty knowledgeable, I'd definitely recommend him. When I went back in December they had no waitlist, so I was #1. Ended up getting an allocation in just 1 month at MSRP. Not certain they're still at MSRP, though. They started charging $2500 over on M cars in February, so not sure if they're still doing that.
Thanks - just reached out to Evan and it seems they’re still asking $2,500 over.
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BMW Ramsey I hear over and over again that they are against selling over MSRP. When I ordered my Circle was MSRP but that was March last year when it was just released. I ordered mine from dealer in Baltimore at 10% off MSRP. That's unheard off now a days though. I would have paid MSRP though but I'm all about getting a deal.
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BMW Ramsey I hear over and over again that they are against selling over MSRP. When I ordered my Circle was MSRP but that was March last year when it was just released. I ordered mine from dealer in Baltimore at 10% off MSRP. That's unheard off now a days though. I would have paid MSRP though but I'm all about getting a deal.
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Technically they’re charging MSRP but they require you to buy $2,500 worth of add-ons regardless of whether you want them or not. So, how different is that really than tacking on a $2,500 ADM?
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BMW Ramsey I hear over and over again that they are against selling over MSRP. When I ordered my Circle was MSRP but that was March last year when it was just released. I ordered mine from dealer in Baltimore at 10% off MSRP. That's unheard off now a days though. I would have paid MSRP though but I'm all about getting a deal.
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Technically they're charging MSRP but they require you to buy $2,500 worth of add-ons regardless of whether you want them or not. So, how different is that really than tacking on a $2,500 ADM?

I mean, at least your getting something additionally for the $2.5k, rather just getting the car for $2.5k more. I always talked to Park BMW and they were willing to do MSRP but they didn't have any allocations for a long time.
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Still on the prowl. Turned to the X3M now. Anyone know of any on the ground (or soon to be) in the Northeast corridor?
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Has anyone taken delivery (or received a production number) for their G80 or G80x from Flemington BMW and if so, when?

Despite being 1st in line, I have been awaiting allocation since January.
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Has anyone taken delivery (or received a production number) for their G80 or G80x from Flemington BMW and if so, when?

Despite being 1st in line, I have been awaiting allocation since January.
They are a low volume dealership. I am sure they will get one soon.

Do you know if they got a Jahre Edition?
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They are a low volume dealership. I am sure they will get one soon.

Do you know if they got a Jahre Edition?
Yes - very low volume apparently. I was actually first in line in November of 2021 for a RWD, but changed it to AWD in Jan.

My understanding from other posts on the forum is that every US dealer received a Jahre allocation this month. I exchanged emails with the dealer last week when I was looking for a status update. They made no mention of Jahre allocation.

I am either being passed up or they didn't receive one.
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Still on the prowl. Turned to the X3M now. Anyone know of any on the ground (or soon to be) in the Northeast corridor?
Hey Mike, that X3M is currently in production and should be here in 2 weeks. It's Brooklyn Grey w.Sakhir Orange/Black Extended Merino now though
We can use April programs since we have an approval from BMW Financial.
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The dealership I work at in South Jersey is charging MSRP. We're only granted permission to charge over MSRP on cars deemed special editions.
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      05-29-2022, 08:47 AM   #42
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Nothing but good things from Circle in Eatontown. Ask for Danny Wong.

But, not sure what the current situation is as I picked mine up in September.
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Nothing but good things from Circle in Eatontown. Ask for Danny Wong.

But, not sure what the current situation is as I picked mine up in September.
I've been in contact with Danny, and he seems like a really good guy. A real enthusiast too, which matters to me when buying a car like an M3.

Unfortunately, his hands are tied. Because I worked with another SA back in November to buy my M340i, I'm "tied" to that SA unless I specifically request otherwise. While I've got nothing against that particular SA, when I reached out to him about placing an order for the M3, his manager told him he needed to charge me $5k over MSRP for the ADM. After lots of back and forth, they've agreed to lower it to $3k, but are holding firm.

Danny said he'd normally be able to do MSRP, and I could request to work directly with him, but because the sales manager is aware of my inquiry and what they've previously quoted, Danny wouldn't be able to do any better on pricing.

It's a really unfortunate situation, and exactly the opposite kind of treatment I'd expect from someone who's looking to be a repeat customer.

I've debated trying to escalate this to their upper management, but at this point I don't know that I'll go back regardless of the deal they offer.
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I've been in contact with Danny, and he seems like a really good guy. A real enthusiast too, which matters to me when buying a car like an M3.

Unfortunately, his hands are tied. Because I worked with another SA back in November to buy my M340i, I'm "tied" to that SA unless I specifically request otherwise. While I've got nothing against that particular SA, when I reached out to him about placing an order for the M3, his manager told him he needed to charge me $5k over MSRP for the ADM. After lots of back and forth, they've agreed to lower it to $3k, but are holding firm.

Danny said he'd normally be able to do MSRP, and I could request to work directly with him, but because the sales manager is aware of my inquiry and what they've previously quoted, Danny wouldn't be able to do any better on pricing.

It's a really unfortunate situation, and exactly the opposite kind of treatment I'd expect from someone who's looking to be a repeat customer.

I've debated trying to escalate this to their upper management, but at this point I don't know that I'll go back regardless of the deal they offer.
You will be hard pressed to do better than 2.5k ADM in the current environment. I would try and lower them to that which is likely doable. You may find a dealer doing MSRP but they will still ask you to buy 2-2.5k of stuff on top.
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