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Toyota Yaris and the like also sell very well. I guess from your standpoint that's an educated argument for many to switch bands. Granted, I'd take the Yaris GR front over the G8X.
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Most reviews seem to focus on the presenter and their ego but that one was decent and focused majorly on the product.
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As per my prior post, every consumer has different needs, interests, etc . . . and make purchase decisions accordingly. Factors of my own are weighted around spirited daily driving (performance), with design architecture being less important. Not COMPLETELY unimportant, as I already stated the G82 exceeds my threshold when it comes to function over form. So, yes, the G80C does not appeal to my visual senses, but I am more than satisfied with the vehicle because it excels at what is most important to ME . . . spirited daily driving performance. For the record, I am not a long-term, ///M diehard . . . I was drawn to the BMW lineup for the first time by the F87C. The reason I despise the revised BMW front grilles is because they are unsightly as sin (to ME); not because they are different than the iconic BMW kidney grille. You and dialogical seem to be coming from opposite ends of the spectrum. One cannot understand why anyone would focus on design architecture, while the other cannot understand how anyone could ignore it . . . does it matter, so long as the individual making the purchase is getting what they want? ///AVM |
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Still, give me one G8X for free and I'll sell it right away and look elsewhere or invest the proceeds! |
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Today I saw somewhere in here some pics of the M Performance exhaust and other performance parts. OMG...I mean, I cannot be associated with that buyer profile! |
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With some 18K+ posts on this forum, I figure you must be able to answer this question . . . I understand ZCP means 'Competition Package.' What I do not understand is the difference between a model designated 'Competition' and one referred to as ZCP? I mean, there was the F87 M2 and the M2 Competition. Why not refer to it as the M2 ZCP? Thank you in advance. ///AVM |
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I wonder what can I get in 12m for my F80 ZCP, 6MT, San Marino Blue, Amaro interior, 13k miles, PPF and some CF bits. |
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So, technically, the F87C and M80C could be appropriately referred to as ZCP models? My question arises specifically because I notice a lot of F80 owners reference their vehicles as "F80 M3 ZCP" instead of F80 M3 Competition. ///AVM |
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So, yeah, maybe that's why I can't get all worked up over the very silly grill. I don't think it's atrocious...but it's certainly silly. As were the headlights on my Integra GS-R back in the day. Or the stubby front-end of my RSX-S. Also, there's the Civic Type-R. I haven't owned one, but despite the utterly awful overdone Anime looks, I COULD if it was the only fun car I could get with a stick or I needed to go down-market (dealer mark-ups notwithstanding). There's the other part...I got OVER my dislike of the grill as soon as the internet went nuts about it. And when I saw IOMG in real life. Buying something that so many trolls lose their sh*t over is part of the fun of this car. But I am a misanthrope at heart. |
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I could not stand the rear third of the F87C, much the same as my views on the front of the G80C. . . but not about to throw either of these performance babies out with the bath water. I'd like to say there is no perfect car, but that new GT3 sure appears close . . . now, if only I had an extra $180K lying around. ///AVM |
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…I feel about it the way some feel about the G8X. I hate the wing. I hate the front bumper. I hate the hood. The rear of the car would looking profoundly better with just the duckbill trunk spoiler. I feel like Porsche ruined the car for me. It is not an attractive car to me like the prior GT3 is/was. That said, I would still buy it given the financial opportunity because I can deal with what I don't like to harness the things I do like. I get your argument(s) loud and clear. |
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I just know marketing and sales is all. I still don’t get what you’re mad at. I can’t stand the old style Corvette and it sells very well. Never really bothered me. I’m not crazy about the mustang either and it does very well. The truth is, so far at least, this new G80/82 is selling faster and leagues more with more enthusiasm than it’s predecessor. Keep your fingers crossed that could come to an end. |
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