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11-26-2020, 08:14 AM | #69 |
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Nope. More than a third of the kidney grille area is blocked by the bumper structure. That grille design is for looks only.
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11-26-2020, 08:57 AM | #70 |
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I showed the picture of the front end of the new M3 to my Japanese girlfriend and she started laughing and telling me it looks like Mr. Ton (aka Sh*tty boss) from Aggretsuko It's growing on her though after about 30 minutes so I may have a chance.
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As for the looks, I don't think anyone would have an issue with a flashier look if it was done right. Right now it looks like an angry beaver showing his oversized teeth. |
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12-01-2020, 04:12 PM | #72 | ||
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12-02-2020, 02:15 PM | #73 |
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The grill is subjective. You either hate it or love it. I love it. Looks aggressive and I don't care a bit about it being different from older generations. The grill has changed many times over time. In any case, where are the road and track tests???? I want to see how this baby performs!!!!!!
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12-02-2020, 02:36 PM | #74 |
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I am not a fan of the grille, I dislike it, but I am willing to get black which makes it disappear. I can not be mad at BMW because they still gave us a manual 5 seat sedan.
The only agonizing thing to me, is I really like the looks of the M2cs, M5lci, M8, G20. Wish the M3 followed those cars in regards to the grilles. |
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12-02-2020, 05:56 PM | #75 |
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Those that are betting for or against the success of this car, we will never know the real reason. Historically vehicles sell better or worse than the prior gen due to macro economic variables, that is all. If the world economy is strong, the car will sell well, if the markets they rely on are weak, sales will be weak. The other factor is how much vehicles will be discounted or not to move cars. You not only would have to look at sales vs prior gen, you also would need to look at sales vs the comp set and sales price as a percentage of say MSRP vs. prior gen and comp. This is the reason the Bangle 7 sold so well, even considering the design was not well received, we were in the middle of a massive financial bubble when the car was released.
The other issue is that there really is no other competition in the segment. AMG going with 4cyl is the end of the C63. I have spent hours upon hours looking into a 992 911, it becomes too big of a step up from a cost prospective (purchase price, standard maintenance, etc). For me the options are either keep my F80 longer since it is barely driven and low mileage, or upgrade to a G80. |
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3.5/10 thread. The damage control is strong but badly illustrated. Additional commentary (re: support) by others helps his case, but ultimately nowhere near enough (nor possible) to rectify this mistake.
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Everything but the front will look great in M3 guise with widened arches, etc and the performance will win people over on its own but there was no reason for BMW to have to make it this hard to like the car design. Hearing people say "I'll get a dark color to hide the design" is sad. Any decent kidney grille and they would have lines for forever.
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I might be in the minority among BMW enthusiasts but I actually like the new grille. It's an evolution of the company. Hard core enthusiasts are a small percentage of the clientele and clearly BMW want to reach out to the other 99% out there. It's a radical change for sure so kudos to BMW for being unafraid to rock the boat.
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When the E90/92 M cars debuted many were outraged due to engine choice and today you find people proclaiming how great a car it was. Same will be said of this new Gen M3/M4 cars in some future timeline.
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Well for me it's a no go this time of the M3/4 but not for grill reasons.
I always love a good laugh at any thread where the statement is 'yeah BMW know better'. No $hit I wonder if they just fluked their way to a multi billion million trillion profit business. I'm sure it's reassuring for them to have the threads supper though
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"Of course, the cost of developing an entirely new grille design, especially considering the fact that the current grille is integrated into the entire front bumper and even the hood. However, BMW doesn’t have to do it right away. Designers at BMW are currently developing the 4 Series LCI facelift, that’s just how the process works. LCI facelifts are under development the moment the pre-LCI car launches. So BMW could announce that the LCI will offer two grilles and the new, second one will be available for retro-fit at dealerships."
https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/01/18/a...ld-bmw-follow/
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And the aftermarket community is already working on various solutions to shrink the grill, including whole new front bumpers. The cleanest and cheapest solutions are going to make a killing over the next few years. Hec, many buy new grilles just to change the color (body-color, black, etc.), so you know there will be many who will buy these coming aftermarket solutions to change the look/size.
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