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      08-28-2018, 08:55 PM   #1
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I predict that the G80, like the G20, will have "conjoined grills"

New user, been lurking for a year. I noticed that the trend for all the new BMW's are having conjoined kidney grill. Honestly, I do not like the look of the conjoined kidney grill. (IE: The M2 competition grill's are conjoined, the new 3 series looks like they're getting conjoined grills.) Hence, it makes me wonder if the new G80 M3/M4's are getting conjoined grills.
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      08-28-2018, 08:57 PM   #2
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At least you are worried about the important details like how much faster/better handling it will be. Will there still be a manual/what kind of engine or AWD, etc. ...
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Connected grill...what connected grill.


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Connected grill...what connected grill.


I'm sure IND is all over this. Heck they may have paid BMW to conjoin grills so they can make a lick off these
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Connected grill...what connected grill.
My Pontiac Firebird did not have a connected grill. Actually a lot of the parts on that car were not properly connected and some of them actually fell off. The grill did not fall off but it rattled a lot.
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So your priority over performance, handling, steering feedback, and anything performance wise is whether the car will have conjoined kidney grills.

Also, some people argue that its more traditional of BMW to have conjoined grills like they use to during the 70s and 80.
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What concerns me is the big power bump the g20 340i and 440i will be getting ~385hp which really closes the gap in power not to mention x drive configs when compared to the f80/f82s
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going to be expensive thats my one prediction
as far as the performance etc.. they will roll something out that everyone will be complain about then everyone of us will buy and love it

never is enough! hah
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What concerns me is the big power bump the g20 340i and 440i will be getting ~385hp which really closes the gap in power not to mention x drive configs when compared to the f80/f82s
I believe they were already understated at the advertised 340hp or whatever. But this only means the next M will run well over 450 but not too close to the M5, lol.
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Connected grill...what connected grill.


What car is this pic of? I love those grills.
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Well, my prediction is that it will be as big as the last 5-series
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What concerns me is the big power bump the g20 340i and 440i will be getting ~385hp which really closes the gap in power not to mention x drive configs when compared to the f80/f82s
Why? In some conditions the current 340/440 will get an M3/4 off the line, especially if is a manual. It is what it is, it always goes this way.
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At least you are worried about the important details like how much faster/better handling it will be. Will there still be a manual/what kind of engine or AWD, etc. ...
I am honestly more driven by the aesthetic of the vehicle. And the conjoined grills are what bothers me the most on the M2, plus the rear nut sack that is noticeably dangling.

Look at the way the M8 is going as well. I feel compelled to say that BMW's are going through a conjoined grill look going forward.
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I am honestly more driven by the aesthetic of the vehicle. And the conjoined grills are what bothers me the most on the M2, plus the rear nut sack that is noticeably dangling.

Look at the way the M8 is going as well. I feel compelled to say that BMW's are going through a conjoined grill look going forward.
As said previously, there will be plastic surgeons such as IND that will fix it for $$$$.

We are just giving you are a hard time, everybody has their reasons for what they like/don't like in a car. I don't know if you've driven any of these or what your car history is, but maybe when you drive one the conjoinment issue will be less of a priority for you.

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I'm more concerned about the counterclockwise tachometer
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That M2 Competition front end is looking aggressive! I have high hopes for the next M4, especially if it will still have that 3rd pedal.
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What car is this pic of? I love those grills.
That is a Long Beach Blue M2 Competition that IND had in for some mods.
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What concerns me is the big power bump the g20 340i and 440i will be getting ~385hp which really closes the gap in power not to mention x drive configs when compared to the f80/f82s
The M3/4 has always been more than just a power bump though. After owning a 340i before my F80 the difference in driving dynamics beyond just more power and torque is staggering.
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What concerns me is the big power bump the g20 340i and 440i will be getting ~385hp which really closes the gap in power not to mention x drive configs when compared to the f80/f82s
The M3/4 has always been more than just a power bump though. After owning a 340i before my F80 the difference in driving dynamics beyond just more power and torque is staggering.
Yea I came from a 435 and the M3 just feels more immediate in all its movements and much more rigid (giggidy)
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What concerns me is the big power bump the g20 340i and 440i will be getting ~385hp which really closes the gap in power not to mention x drive configs when compared to the f80/f82s
the F30 vs F80 I think the m3 got a unique steering rack, suspension and a dual clutch.

In the G20/G80 generation itll be interesting because I feel they will be a lot closer together since the power will be closer, theres no dual clutch and the G20 will even have an e-diff etc.

Itll be interesting, if its going to be the type of gap that say the b9 s5 and rs5 have.
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Connected grill...what connected grill.


The grills kind of look like wings here
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I am honestly more driven by the aesthetic of the vehicle. And the conjoined grills are what bothers me the most on the M2, plus the rear nut sack that is noticeably dangling.

Look at the way the M8 is going as well. I feel compelled to say that BMW's are going through a conjoined grill look going forward.
I feel you bro. My mind is always modifying shapes until it finds it aesthetically pleasing, unless it's perfection, like the DB9- all I could do was appreciate it.

No doubt the grilles are going towards the styling you suggested. The thing is, BM has historically updated its grille design for every generation... which was fine, I suppose. But then they started adjusting the grille design for every individual line up.

The 7-series has huge beast-chipmunk teeth like grilles for example, which I thought looked more comedic than aggressive (I assume BM intended for the latter, as they usually do).

It's almost as if they're on a journey of their own to solve the most perfect, most optimal kidney grille design...

My point is they've kind of set themselves a precedence of their own and now they feel pressured to constantly update a design, even if it were solved- they've now committed to making them shallower and wider for the next generation.

The double kidney grille (separated ones) are so iconic that you could slap them on 90% of cars and from a certain distance it'd look like some sort of BMW. I don't think they should have took it this far... FWIW they had it solved on the E92.
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