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09-28-2020, 10:24 AM | #179 | |
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The P-car get minuses mainly on lack of value and practicality, the M5 get minuses on weight and size. Plus for P-car is driving dynamics and for the M5 it’s the engine. The G82 was the best compromise but could end up only with a value card and it’s cool progressive looks. Last edited by solstice; 09-28-2020 at 10:43 AM.. |
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09-28-2020, 10:46 AM | #181 | |
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My buddy has an M5C and while the exhaust note isn’t bad I also don’t love the way it sounds. If the S58 in the M3/4 sounds like the X3/4M it’s not bad. |
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I believe the base 992 911 will also beat a G8X. A member on Rennlist did 0-60 in 3.7 in his.
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09-28-2020, 11:22 AM | #183 |
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I don’t know if my original post on the subject might have been unclear but as for engine advantage it was the the M5. Other than the objective power numbers it’s a V8 with subjective advantages for me as sound and character. I haven’t driven a car with the S58 so I can’t judge it fairly against the 992 but it’s more powerful as a start.
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09-28-2020, 11:35 AM | #184 | |
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An F80 is really not that exciting in 2021 either. It would not evoke the feelings you should get when buying a new car. I’d stick with the G80 in your shoes. I still might btw. there’s still a lot to like and be excited over IMO. |
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09-28-2020, 11:37 AM | #185 |
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Checked Alpha Giulia Quadrifoglio website specs RWD curb weight is 3806lbs automatic only. For Canada it was listed at 3820lbs. Pretty close to G80 specs.
Journalists talk about how agile and sporty the car feels compared to the lighter F80, so TBD on driving impressions. Maybe it masks the weight well? Heavy sports cars are typically awful to drive, but maybe the engineering has progressed to compensate. |
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09-28-2020, 11:42 AM | #186 |
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It is interesting to see 9 pages of people really worried about the weight. Unless people are tracking there is little actual effect to the weight. For the hard parkers there should be no difference.
For the 5 people here that track, yes, this is a real problem. |
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Here is a great thread on early F80 weights. https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1077612 |
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I still have 18months of my M340xdrive lease to run, so will wait for all the G80 reviews to come out, and take it for a few test drives etc before I make my mind up. Also, my brother in UK has an order in for a G80, so when he gets it I will be interested in his view compared with his current F82C. |
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09-28-2020, 12:21 PM | #193 | |
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Heavy sports car can drive ok, but not great. There's a reason Porsche puts a lot of focus on weight. |
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Even off the track, for a heavier car, 3500lb plus, you can definitely feel it in the canyons. If only doing freeway pulls then no. |
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The comparisons to the 911 are interesting and show the breadth of appeal for the M4 use cases, but also do not make a ton of sense to me personally. considering the M4 can seat up to 4 adults and carry 4 golf bags to the course and the 911 can seat 2 adults and carry 0 golf bags.
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