[drexplode]

Let's start a petition to send to BMW (i feel like this has been done before). Who will commit to spending 120k minimum on a G81? Anticipated delivery in 1yr +.

[Idontliketrying]

Originally Posted by John4C

Problem with RS6 (and M8) is size, tunability, and depreciation. Ironically, the age group you referenced, 20s to 30s (probably stretched to 40s) is exactly who would buy it. It's not out of need, it's because it's cool.

Why exactly do you think it's 20k more? Touring is exactly €1k more than the sedan in Germany...

I went off of the UK price which was 86 convert that to USD it’s 110k. RS6 has been holding it value somewhat decently. Though that’s geographically based. 20-30s will buy it but there also trying to not bury themselves in another mortgage esk payment. If it was 2k more than a US price M3 then I’d say yes it would sell decently but at assuming 110kish I’d say it would product slightly better numbers than the XM.

[John4C]

Originally Posted by Idontliketrying

I went off of the UK price which was 86 convert that to USD it’s 110k. RS6 has been holding it value somewhat decently. Though that’s geographically based. 20-30s will buy it but there also trying to not bury themselves in another mortgage esk payment. If it was 2k more than a US price M3 then I’d say yes it would sell decently but at assuming 110kish I’d say it would product slightly better numbers than the XM.

£2500 more in the UK (xdrive to xdrive)

I bet it would cost $2-3k more here.

[Quadruple VANOS]

These $130k performance wagons are the automotive equivalent of an all season tire. It does a lot competently, but nothing at a top level. I think most people in the US who have this kind of money and don’t frequent Cars & Coffee will just buy a performance SUV.

[John4C]

Originally Posted by drexplode

Let's start a petition to send to BMW (i feel like this has been done before). Who will commit to spending 120k minimum on a G81? Anticipated delivery in 1yr +.

Sure but at the correct price. I wouldn't pay a 35k premium over the sedan for it (what you're implying). G80 xdrive is currently ~85 to start, so call it <90 base and they'd sell a ton of them (obviously with options price would be higher).

[John4C]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

These $130k performance wagons are the automotive equivalent of an all season tire. It does a lot competently, but nothing at a top level. I think most people in the US who have this kind of money and don’t frequent Cars & Coffee will just buy a performance SUV.

True, but let’s be honest, the same could be said of the g80 (it does a lot competently but nothing at a top level).

[drexplode]

Originally Posted by John4C

Sure but at the correct price. I wouldn't pay a 35k premium over the sedan for it (what you're implying). G80 xdrive is currently ~85 to start, so call it <90 base and they'd sell a ton of them (obviously with options price would be higher).

ok ok, 105k. X-drive only.

But, maybe we are getting off topic. Nice car OP! PPE is bad ass and thanks for reminding us we dont get one in the US. haha

[provenflipper]

Love this spec! Bi color wheels look exceptional.

[kamilbaran]

The things I would do for these to be sold in the US.

[zisler]

I would gladly take on another car loan for this stunning car. BMW your market in the US exists…

[JFIV]

Originally Posted by AhsanU

Screw you BMW for not bringing the G81 to the USA. I hope every BMW exec has nightmares of Chris Bangle feeding them rotten hors d’oeurves in a silky pink thong while listening to Du Hast by Rammstein on repeat.

Hahaha.
You’re killing me man. This just made me relive the first time I heard Du Hast at some weirdo live sex show in Amsterdam where I watched a man with way too many pig tails in his hair do things I’d like to forget to a woman built like SpongeBob.

[NotSharocks]

This is the best looking version of the G8X.

That is by no means a compliment to the styling of the G8X but wagons just look cooler.

It will never come stateside because the base 3 wagon was never sold here.

You can't even build one out of a chassis because again, the base 3 wagon does not exist here.

BMW will cater to dollars. Not enthusiasts.

[GOLFFRR]

love it!

[Dcs100]

No way you’r going to be able to find it in a car park 😀😀😀

[deemo319]

So your going to try and not mod it huh? That’s sounds very difficult to accomplish.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by John4C

You're wrong. It has exceeded expectations in Europe. It would sell well here. .

Would it really, though?

BMW hasn't exactly set the world on fire with the F30 wagon sales, the E46 wagon sales (did they bring the E90 here? I don't recall.) The only wagon they have sold here that I can remember having any modicum of success was the E61. But that was before they had 18 different SUV's to take it's place. Back then you only had X3 and X5...that was it. Nowadays, I think the X7 has totally stolen that market.

So....I'm not sure BMW has seen the sales success with previous generation wagons that would give them the confidence that it would succeed here. Unless you're saying it would because all those previous wagons were the cooking versions, whereas this is an M wagon? I mean, cost to federalize the bodystyle is in the millions...you need to sell a LOT of units to cover that.


BTW, I'm a wagon fan and, crucially former wagon OWNER. So I'm not throwing shade, just trying to figure out reality. I personally would have loved an M3 wagon 10 years ago when my kids were small. Now, we have a Cayenne for longer trips and no longer need a wagon. And while I do love them and think they are awesome, it weighs more and is larger and if I don't need that, I don't want to make the (small) sacrifice that's there just for the cool factor.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by John4C

£2500 more in the UK (xdrive to xdrive)

I bet it would cost $2-3k more here.

That's completely unrealistic. It only costs that much more there because the wagon is already sold in many other forms. In order to bring to the US, it would have to be crash tested which means every M3 sold here would have to bear that cost. And crash testing a vehicle runs in the multiple millions of dollars a year cost.

[stoked335d]

Love this purple. Wanted to order my ‘22 X3MC this color but the wait was too long.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by John4C

Exactly. It would sell well here but at the expense of existing G8x and X3M sales. BMW didn't think there business case for conquest buyers and thus it didn't make sense to cannibalize themselves. Cadiliac got conquest buyers with the CTS-V wagon.

It did well in Europe but won’t do well here. Not many Americans are going to spend 100k on a Wagon. I think Station wagons have a negative stigma here. Most Americans would just rather buy an SUV than drive around ina. Station wagon.

[HODLM]

OP: your car is 🔥 . Also I’m absolutely shocked you were able to shoehorn 3 car seats back there! Impressive.

I daily an RS6 Avant, and just 2 car seats in the back feels like a tall ask.

Someone said these wagons do everything well, but nothing great. To a large extent it’s true. But the Avant is hands down the best car I’ve ever driven from an all around stand point, despite my small gripes (small gas tank, lack of adequate cup holders, no easy-to-get-to “Max AC” button (must have in Miami)).

One of the crazy things about the car is how much attention it draws, as though it’s a supercar. Especially in Miami, where you see 4-6 Urus’ (Uri?) on the road every day. These wagons are rare and spectacular, and it shows in people’s reactions.

All that said, if BMW were to bring the touring stateside I would strongly consider getting one, in Imola Red!

[pobrienny]

Unfortunately this is probably the closest we will get in the US. Looks like even Buick is selling more of these in the EU then here.

[adc]

Originally Posted by drexplode

Let's start a petition to send to BMW (i feel like this has been done before). Who will commit to spending 120k minimum on a G81? Anticipated delivery in 1yr +.

I’d rather start a petition for them to make the Z4 Coupe (M version please).

Everything the wagon can do can also be done in an X3M, plus more. Like towing.

Whereas a Z4 M Coupe with the S58 engine would do things no other BMW can do.