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There are just very few people like CanAutM3 who basically need all this information as they move their cars on the limit. For someone like him the weight increase is an issue. For me not. Just as an example.. But because of this I just don't understand all the hate. The usual costumer of a car looks at this things when buying a car like this: - Price - Numbers (HP etc.) which just have to sound good - Sound - INTERIOR - Daily ability - Looks oh course it sounds awesome when you hear the car is faster than XY or it does 0-100 in 3.9s. But this is just marketing for BMW to get costumer. People who track the car look out for this reviews like here and try to evaluate the different cars to get the one best fitting their needs. I for myself wanted a car with loads of power, rwd and MT. Also reliable and good costumer service was important for me. Everything offered very good from BMW, so my decision was pretty easy. |
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Nurburgring is also a power sensitive track with long high speed sectors and long uphill stretch. The S58 is a big part of a faster lap time there. |
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It's clearly a very capable steed regardless of tire, no question there. On shorter tracks where there is less opportunity to stretch the 100-200 the F8x compares very well from what I can tell.
Of this cars listed though for generational comparison, I'd take an E92 M3 GTS everyday of the week 😬 |
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Still, watching you and CanAutM3 go at it on this thread was very informative.
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On this circuit power is useless (indeed, it can be a disadvantage), good front end grip and great traction is more important, and the F82 was destroyed by the new G82. |
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Would be cool if BMW had all these legacy M3's laying around but put them on the same modern tire / brake pads/fluid and ran them again at the 'ring to see how close or far apart they actually are.
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E9XC 1:41 --> F82C 1:36 = ~5 sec F82C 1:36 --> G82C 1:34 = ~2 sec With every generation changeover, tire tech (not only sizing) is an important contributor to the performance gains. Taking tires out of the equation, the gains of the G8X as demonstrated in the OP are not significant enough for me to keep me interested, especially coming out of a CS. Hence why I am moving on. For others, coming out of 2015, it can be a different story. And it is not only about lap times for me, you might dismiss some characteristics that not important to you, but these might be more important to others. In the end, I may very well come back to ///M if they make a compelling proposition with the CS or CSL .
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Actually the gap between PS2 (E92) and PSS (F82) was really HUGE, I'd say bigger than PSS and PS4S.
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Typo or no typo, 53% front axle distribution is a little on the higher side of my tastes. Guess the engineers are really struggling to reach that golden 50/50 weight balance....
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