[GreenLantern]

The ADM discussion is a joke.

The F82 M4 GTS sat on dealer lots forever before getting sold. Some were sold below MSRP. (I own two.)

At this price point, anyone who pays an ADM is a fool.

That said, I'm bored with this car. I want to want it, but it needs a flashy color option.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

Well of corse it is, it's RWD.

No one cares about how a car steers or feels, 0-60 time is all that matters. The Model S Plaid is the best car ever made.

[BzsBimmer]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

Minimum $150k markup on this car. And I mean minimum.

You really think $150k ADM? Wow that’s insane.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

No it's not a GT4 RS

Just wait until the dealers get them in.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

Just wait until the dealers get them in.

Those dealers should look at CNBC.com right now. No one is going to be buying cars to flip for a quick buck anymore.

[beachBmmr]

my CA is offering me his only allocation at MSRP. for 1k now.

I dont know what to do

[Montaver]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

The ADM discussion is a joke.

The F82 M4 GTS sat on dealer lots forever before getting sold. Some were sold below MSRP. (I own two.)

At this price point, anyone who pays an ADM is a fool.

That said, I'm bored with this car. I want to want it, but it needs a flashy color option.

The GTS sat on lots because it was not very well received at the time. This is a different car. It's also a very different car market. People are paying ADMs on Kia rotboxes.

These will snapped up by speculators and collectors based on the name badge alone. There will be sub 500 cars in the US.

[Montaver]

Originally Posted by beachBmmr

my CA is offering me his only allocation at MSRP. for 1k now.

I dont know what to do

Take it

[somer]

Originally Posted by BzsBimmer

You really think $150k ADM? Wow that’s insane.

zero chance of that

[mockngbrd]

I LOVe IT! Except for the price

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

The ADM discussion is a joke.

The F82 M4 GTS sat on dealer lots forever before getting sold. Some were sold below MSRP. (I own two.)

At this price point, anyone who pays an ADM is a fool.

That said, I'm bored with this car. I want to want it, but it needs a flashy color option.

I agree and my mindset is the same going forward but todays market is not the market of that time period.

GTS did sit for months on the lot and there was nothing special about it versus my previously owned F82 LCI , especially when I had every flash from the GTS on it.

But given todays market circumstances , these allocations will be all spoken for by next week lol and you won't see any on the lot.

[meko]

Originally Posted by WWM3

So the carbon hood isn't vented ?

Those nostrils are begging for vents. First thing I thought when I first saw the G8X...there will be a model with them vented like the new GT3. Maybe not

[ScullyD]

The traditional nurburgring lap time for the M4 CSL is actually 7:15.677 and the new time is 7:20.207. So the time that compares to the GT4 RS's time of 7:04.511 is 7:15.677.

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

Minimum $150k markup on this car. And I mean minimum.

My CA told me 50k with him.

[beachBmmr]

Originally Posted by Montaver

Take it

I just did..curious what the ordering options will be. There are color options and possibly an option to delete the graphics.

Suspension bits are different, additional front camber, solid ball joints, and different struts.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by vcx

I like the fact that BMW create some track-focused cars.

But when you think about it, the CSL achieves about the same lap time as a Corvette C6 ZO6 (with z07 package) did in the Nürburgring, in 2012, for less money, with a manual gearbox.. Not exactly a great value or achievement IMO.

I agree. You would think this car would be quicker than the Vette 10 years later.🤷🏽*♂️🤣. I couldn't give a shit about lap times at any track cause no one can drive that good anyway. That's all for manufacture bragging rights. Tires make a huge difference also when it comes to tracks. I like real would 0-60 , 1/4 mile and 60-120. This is definitely not the car for that. But hey, congrats BMW. Go out there and smoke those old ass Vette's on the track😂

[solstice]

It would be interesting to see what time an M4CX can do on PSC2 R or Trofeo R. May cut the distance to the CSL in half where the $140k seems a bit excessive from a performance point of view. Something seems a bit off with this time, I would not be surprised if we’ll see a few seconds faster times as time goes.

It’s no doubt a looker though with many cool details so I’m sure it will sell in today’s market. And with ICEs coming to an end this could remain the fastest ICE era BMW until the end of days. Likely enough to make it a classic in any case.

We’ll, the hommage should beat it good, MT and all but with 50 units who cares

[mattssi]

I want that strut bar and boot!

[adc]

After all the excitement, 7:20 is very meh. Figure a 7:25 for the sport auto lap, nothing to write home about. Just my cinicism showing.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Those dealers should look at CNBC.com right now. No one is going to be buying cars to flip for a quick buck anymore.

Like myself, most people probably don't watch the news anymore. What are they saying?

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by DK__LA

My CA told me 50k with him.

That's generous of him if they can even get one. I think 1000 units worldwide will most likely keep some dealers from even getting one.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

The traditional nurburgring lap time for the M4 CSL is actually 7:15.677 and the new time is 7:20.207. So the time that compares to the GT4 RS's time of 7:04.511 is 7:15.677.

This is true, you’d have to look apples to apples.

7:04 vs 7:15

Or

7:09 vs 7:20