01-23-2015, 09:37 PM | #1 |
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No more manual gearbox for Future M3/M4?
Apparently BMWNA said only 7% of buyers are choosing manual.
I recall BMW had already stated that future M5's will be DCT only but I hope future M3/M4 don't follow suit. The availability of a manual box is a key decision factor for me. If BMW eliminates this, the playing field becomes more leveled and the C63 V8 biturbo with that AMG badass sound will be awfully tempting. |
01-23-2015, 09:53 PM | #2 |
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I'll be chasing the manuals until they are no more. Hope BMW keeps them going. If not, then goodbye.
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Only 7% of people order manual transmission on their F8x in Europe. So I will not be surprised if the next generation M3/M4 will have manual transmission for the US/Canadian market only.
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Actually, what the article said was that only 7% of BMWs (all models worldwide) are sold with a manual transmission.
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Tru dat.
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I still have a manual Cooper S. That's all I need for my right arm exercising. The M3's DCT will be more fun at a track.
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And BMW manuals have never even been very tactile until now. Just when they are getting good they will stop them, pity but that's where everyone is headed. No manual Ferrari, GT3 or Lambo on sale today for example. The majority of sports car buyers shop on performance and looks not "feel" or engaging driving. Even an M3 is so fast today that the performnce penalty of an MT is significant. Personally I just want a car that feels fast and is fun to drive, that I connect with heart, soul and body. The MT still does that a bit better than the DCT. Always will I guess. An always that might only last another decade. Sob.
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Yikes, I'll rather drive a DCT... ( I hope you spelled right and meant the band Kiss )
I'm in Hawaii now and talked to the girl at the car rental desk in the hotel, asked if they had any MTs. The look at her face was like if I asked if they had a horse and carriage |
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Wasn't the take rate on the e90/2/3 M3's something like 45 or 50% for manual transmissions?
M cars are different. And for the foreseeable future, the north american M3/4 market will be offered manual transmission, IMO. |
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I suspect BMW will be one of the last ones to not offer a manual in these types of cars. If they do stop offering them you can be pretty sure that there will very few if any other options from other brands.
I understand that you guys love your manuals, but I don't understand dismissing the current M3/4 if they didn't have one. This car is about so much more than just the gearbox. |
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Absolutely. I would still buy an M3 with the DCT, no doubt. I was pleasantly surprised on my test drive with the performance of the DCT. But as long as they make manuals, I will be buying them. Just my preference. I am not buying an M3 solely because it's offered in manual transmission. The manual transmission is just the icing. I can eat cake without icing. I promise. |
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