BMW G80 M3 and G82 M4 Specs and Features Speculations by CAR Magazine

Shanh81 · 11-14-2017, 04:23 PM

Looks are a significant downgrade compared to F80 if true.

Red Bread · 11-14-2017, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by georgere

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Originally Posted by R_lara

if proportions are correct this car will be the size of an F10.

No, current 3 is not the size of e60, I believe it is still smaller than e39...:

Yeah, six inches shorter and roughly the same wheelbase, width and height as the E39, which was about two and a half inches shorter than the E60.

Worth noting that the W205 C Class and the B9 A4 are nearly the exact same size as the E39, so safe to bet the G20 will be very close to E39 size and only slightly smaller than the E60.

nicknaz · 11-14-2017, 04:31 PM

Less weight, close to 500hp and rwd sounds promising.

I like the fixed bucket seat speculation too.

Throw on super wide tires, good steering feel and the same track ready cooling system and I'd be onboard!

starbai · 11-14-2017, 04:32 PM

I like the wheels.

Thats about it.

Ibiza · 11-14-2017, 04:33 PM

This story was planted by BMW AG marketing to drive sales of the F80 6MT and M3 CS by upseting the enthusiasts.

BwoodBMW · 11-14-2017, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Fucking garbage. Nobody wants any of that electric nonsense or all wheel drive.

I want AWD if this thing gets any more powerful.... traction is a MAJOR issue with the F80 unless conditions are perfect, and I live in Southern California.

starbai · 11-14-2017, 04:41 PM

I too dont really want anything electric. I aint mad at AWD but dont care for it.

Mako · 11-14-2017, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Fucking garbage. Nobody wants any of that electric nonsense or all wheel drive.

Nobody wants AWD? Um okay
All marketing research and trends seem to show complete opposite information.

Added overall performance with the option to disable would be bad in your mind?

Leave RWD to the smaller lighter weight M2

LemonOne · 11-14-2017, 04:46 PM

This so called "M3" is not an M3 anymore.
M3 is dead, BMW killed it with the F8x generation.
M2 for me from now on.

Die ///M Rakete · 11-14-2017, 04:52 PM

Love the renders. Love the stats. Sad about the manual transmission option slowly being marginalized into a lower performance tier.

Make it unattractive for the consumer and then use the lower uptake to justify its elimination. Brilliant

DeliAhjusshi · 11-14-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonOne

This so called "M3" is not an M3 anymore.
M3 is dead, BMW killed it with the F8x generation.
M2 for me from now on.

Really? I'm really lovin my F80. Granted it could sound better but I think your sentiment is a little dramatic.

eMvy · 11-14-2017, 05:08 PM

"Electrically spooled turbochargers"

^ This is the electric nonsense I've been hoping for. Sure the lack of parasitic power loss is very negligible, but it should give M the ability to spool the snails extremely quickly, control the boost better and most importantly design the headers for a lovely exhaust note this time around, instead of the headers design catering to the turbos which I believe is one of the principal reasons for it not being that flattering of an exhaust note compared to other boosted inline 6's.

Feedback welcome. Cheers.

jaehshim · 11-14-2017, 05:24 PM

please don't look like that....

and low weight is good, jus keep the volume same or smaller, we don't want a 5 series cruiser, we want a car we can actually take it to track and use everyday like what M3 is supposed to do

Wills2 · 11-14-2017, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Yeah, six inches shorter and roughly the same wheelbase, width and height as the E39, which was about two and a half inches shorter than the E60.

The F80 is quite a bit wider than the e39 (1801mm) in fact it's wider than the G30 5 series due to the flared arches 1877mm for the M3 vs 1868mm for the G30

MRV99 · 11-14-2017, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eMvy

"Electrically spooled turbochargers"

^ This is the electric nonsense I've been hoping for. Sure the lack of parasitic power loss is very negligible, but it should give M the ability to spool the snails extremely quickly, control the boost better and most importantly design the headers for a lovely exhaust note this time around, instead of the headers design catering to the turbos which I believe is one of the principal reasons for it not being that flattering of an exhaust note compared to other boosted inline 6's.

Feedback welcome. Cheers.

Parastatic loss for not occurred on turbos which is why they are so popular. They are using exhaust gas which does not put a load on the engine to work. Parastatals drag occurs when the item used horsepower from a car to operate. So a 100HP blower may actually be making 135hp but it robs 35 HP just to work.

nicknaz · 11-14-2017, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eMvy

"Electrically spooled turbochargers"

^ This is the electric nonsense I've been hoping for. Sure the lack of parasitic power loss is very negligible, but it should give M the ability to spool the snails extremely quickly, control the boost better and most importantly design the headers for a lovely exhaust note this time around, instead of the headers design catering to the turbos which I believe is one of the principal reasons for it not being that flattering of an exhaust note compared to other boosted inline 6's.

Feedback welcome. Cheers.

Funny how the electric turbo used to be an ebay joke but now it could be a real thing.

If it does all the things you describe, and can do it to and withstand hours and hours of high speed a-bahn driving and DEs, that would be awesome

guarnibl · 11-14-2017, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Fucking garbage. Nobody wants any of that electric nonsense or all wheel drive.

I want both.

Kr0m3assass1n · 11-14-2017, 05:40 PM

That ass looks like ass.

M3 Adjuster · 11-14-2017, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

This story was planted by BMW AG marketing to drive sales of the F80 6MT and M3 CS by upseting the enthusiasts.

This article will definitely send buyers to stores!

LOL.. Kinda like the myths that have been passed around redneck parts about Obama (and getting rid of guns....)
Once Obama left office., gun companies that were insisting that Obama would eliminate guns are sitting on 2 years of inventory..

Ibiza · 11-14-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

This story was planted by BMW AG marketing to drive sales of the F80 6MT and M3 CS by upseting the enthusiasts.

This article will definitely send buyers to stores!

LOL.. Kinda like the myths that have been passed around redneck parts about Obama (and getting rid of guns....)
Once Obama left office., gun companies that were insisting that Obama would eliminate guns are sitting on 2 years of inventory..

BMW NA will report a spike in 3 series sales for the month of December 2017 on Jan 3rd, 2018 caused by this report. Swapalease server has crashed with all the F80 owners uploading their lease specs/price to order a 2018 F80 6MT rear wheel drive with combustion engine before the apocalypse.

rjd598 · 11-14-2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Fucking garbage. Nobody wants any of that electric nonsense or all wheel drive.

that's what they said about turbo cars...and you drive one...

it's just the way it is. once hybrid engines are the norm you'll have something else to complain about. cars running on high quality h20

Thescout13 · 11-14-2017, 06:00 PM

I cannot believe I am going to say this but.... fake news .

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