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      10-29-2020, 09:16 AM   #1
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People will be all over it when it hits low 10s

Cant wait to see this thing running low 10s in the 1/4 Mile with Bolt Ons and everyone will be all over it haha
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      10-29-2020, 11:02 PM   #2
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Cant wait to see this thing running low 10s in the 1/4 Mile with Bolt Ons and everyone will be all over it haha
Yup
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      10-30-2020, 12:03 AM   #3
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Cant wait to see this thing running low 10s in the 1/4 Mile with Bolt Ons and everyone will be all over it haha
FBO Stage 2 / 2+ running E85 i believe it's going to find its way into the 9's easy.

Can't wait..😈
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      10-30-2020, 02:37 AM   #4
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FBO Stage 2 / 2+ running E85 i believe it's going to find its way into the 9's easy.

Can't wait..��
I think this car will walk the F8X in the same way the F8X walked the E9X.
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      10-30-2020, 09:11 AM   #5
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nah... too heavy

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I think this car will walk the F8X in the same way the F8X walked the E9X.
In a straight line probably. But 1800 Kgs / 3970lbs .. I think it's fair to say this is not a track-oriented car anymore. Looking at some design elements , I believe the ///M(arketing) division is turning their focus to rich kids..
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      10-30-2020, 10:42 AM   #6
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I think this car will walk the F8X in the same way the F8X walked the E9X.
And at nearly 4000 pounds this pig wont break any Nurburgring records.
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      10-30-2020, 10:56 AM   #7
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And at nearly 4000 pounds this pig wont break any Nurburgring records.
Sssssh...don’t tell Nissan...they don’t know and I would hate to see the GT-R go away
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      10-30-2020, 11:25 AM   #8
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And at nearly 4000 pounds this pig wont break any Nurburgring records.
You sure like to jump to conclusions.
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      10-30-2020, 11:27 AM   #9
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In a straight line probably. But 1800 Kgs / 3970lbs .. I think it's fair to say this is not a track-oriented car anymore. Looking at some design elements , I believe the ///M(arketing) division is turning their focus to rich kids..
Like solstice mentioned, weight is only one part of the story. This car looks more composed on the ring than the F8X ever did.
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We're talking AWD right?
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Let's get some cars weighed to see how heavy it is. The new GTI is much heavier than previous gen, 992, etc....wondering if EU specs and weighting guidelines are exaggerating weight gains?
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Like solstice mentioned, weight is only one part of the story. This car looks more composed on the ring than the F8X ever did.
And I suspect the M5CS will beat the ring record for production sedans

We all know added weight isn’t a desirable aspect of a performance car BUT it can be compensated for in terms of overall speed and resulting track times for street cars were there are huge margins and parameters to work with compared to a race car.
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its def going to be a rocket!
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I think this car will walk the F8X in the same way the F8X walked the E9X.
For sure F8x will be much closer to G8x both on track and in straight line, than E9x was to F8x
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I think this car will walk the F8X in the same way the F8X walked the E9X.
For sure F8x will be much closer to G8x both on track and in straight line, than E9x was to F8x
I suppose we are going to see reeeeaaallllyyyy soon.
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In a straight line probably. But 1800 Kgs / 3970lbs .. I think it's fair to say this is not a track-oriented car anymore. Looking at some design elements , I believe the ///M(arketing) division is turning their focus to rich kids..
The F87 M2 comp ran 6 seconds faster on the ring compared to the outgoing F87 after a 150+ pound weight gain. Pretty similar scenario...upgraded engine yet added weight. I think the G80 power to weight ratio improved more than the F87 comp improved though but id have to do some math to confirm that lol. I know everyone is throwing out numbers like the G80 is 500 pounds heavier but its really not a lot of it comes down to what the added weight is doing and I think some of it is added engine bracing which should help and the car being wider probably adds some weight but helps with grip as well. A decent chunk of it is probably to meet increasing safety standards which is unfortunate...I don't think anyone is buying this car for the crash test rating
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I suspect that the closest over 80% of these cars will ever get to any track is...
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I suspect that the closest over 80% of these cars will ever get to any track is...
...just like every other performance car out there.
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And, as you and I know from our LE experience, too many can’t drive them properly on the streets let alone a track. Its good to talk the talk though.
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It's going to be fast with AWD and the 8AT. Mini M5 which might not be what everyone wants. Will be interesting to drive this for the first time.
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Once people find out they can't flash tune it anymore the dragster demographic will certainly be over it
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The F87 M2 comp ran 6 seconds faster on the ring compared to the outgoing F87 after a 150+ pound weight gain. Pretty similar scenario...upgraded engine yet added weight. I think the G80 power to weight ratio improved more than the F87 comp improved though but id have to do some math to confirm that lol. I know everyone is throwing out numbers like the G80 is 500 pounds heavier but its really not a lot of it comes down to what the added weight is doing and I think some of it is added engine bracing which should help and the car being wider probably adds some weight but helps with grip as well. A decent chunk of it is probably to meet increasing safety standards which is unfortunate...I don't think anyone is buying this car for the crash test rating
Speaking about throwing numbers, according to SA/AMS to M2C was 9 seconds faster around the 'ring than the M2 they tested for a 60kg (132lb) weight gain which translates to a 6.7% improvement in power-to-weight. Most of that weight gain is from the engine, wheels, brakes and added bracing.

The weight gain of the G8XC over the F8XC will be more in the 300~350lb range for the RWD, which is quite substantial, especially considering that most of that weight is on the front axle. This translates to a ~5.7% power-to-weight advantage over a F8XC and only ~1% over a F82 M4cs. This will be even worse for the AWD version which will be 400~500lb heavier than the F8X. Further, the extra weight does not come from what they've added over the F8X, the added weight comes from what they have not removed.
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