[NJ Drive]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

That is not a teaser. It's smoke and mirrors. We all know how bad the thing looks hence why they don't show the whole front end.

^Exactly this.

A new generation of M3 should be celebrated by the manufacturer, not cloaked in mystery. Red flag. I couldn't care less if the S58 launches this car into supercar Dragy status if it looks this hideous.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by itsmabs

Overall looks great. Not a huge fan of the grille, but kinda don't care. I think it's probably going to be an easy aftermarket replacement. Color matched or black bottom half, and reduce the top. Will look awesome. Though not sure if it will mess with airflow all that much.

Sounds like the foolish approach to relationships where one says "they'd be perfect if only they'd change."

I've been a car nut for nearly 50 years and this is the first car I hear people ponder modifying the entire front to make it palatable.

[itsmabs]

Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier

Sounds like the foolish approach to relationships where one says "they'd be perfect if only they'd change."

I've been a car nut for nearly 50 years and this is the first car I hear people ponder modifying the entire front to make it palatable.

I dunno feel like you end up doing this often? If you look at audi, how many S owners go aftermarket to the RS grille? I really enjoy the X3M, but I needed new springs, and I made a couple cosmetic changes. I don't think that should have been reason enough to otherwise pass on a awesome vehicle. Or how many bmw owners replace the chrome grille with black? I understand the strong negative reaction. If you overall like this car and the grille is the disappointing part, then change it to your taste. Though I tend to slightly modify my cars, so maybe I see it differently.

[dba1t]

The M3 and M4 were displayed this week in a private reveal at M Track Days @ Indianapolis Motor Speedway. All cell phones, cameras, and other electronic devices were not permitted in the viewing space. The M3 was Isle of Man Green with a Kyalami Orange interior. The M4 was Sao Paulo Yellow with a Yas Marina Blue interior. Both had carbon ceramic brake packages and next generation M wheels.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by itsmabs

If you look at audi, how many S owners go aftermarket to the RS grille?

Not the same situation as taking an M3 and making it look more "tolerable", the S owners taking an RS grill is the same situation as 328i or X5 40i owners sticking fake M-badges and M-stripes into the kidney grills when they know that they don't actually own an M-car, they are not trying to "tone-down" the car like prospective G8X owners are, the non-RS/M buyers are looking to boost their ego and actually stand out more pretending they are something that they are not hence why we have the mess that is M-Performance or AMG-Lite.

[gatorfast]

I'm excited for the new M3/4. Front end may take some getting used to but so far the limited reviews have been very positive.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by F85MTuNED

No you're not crazy I see it too but I'm still unsure of how in the actual fu** did you manage to see it 🤣🤣🤣

Someone should use photoshop to play with gradients to see if it's an other Easter egg, such as "wait till the 23rd".

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by duky

BMW advertises/markets/sells to more than just people on this forum. As important as we enthusiasts think we are, there are a lot of people who will buy M3s who to-date have never seen the leaks, etc. and will learn about it via official email from BMW or insta etc.

I'm interested in the G83, and will patiently wait for the reveal in the future, either latter in 2020 or early 2021, as SOP is still 10 months away. In the meantime, have my 🍿 as I sit back and enjoy the drama play out.

[farishat]

The Ugliest Car in the World Award.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by itsmabs

I dunno feel like you end up doing this often? If you look at audi, how many S owners go aftermarket to the RS grille? I really enjoy the X3M, but I needed new springs, and I made a couple cosmetic changes. I don't think that should have been reason enough to otherwise pass on a awesome vehicle. Or how many bmw owners replace the chrome grille with black? I understand the strong negative reaction. If you overall like this car and the grille is the disappointing part, then change it to your taste. Though I tend to slightly modify my cars, so maybe I see it differently.

The difference is the mods you mention are tweaks to the original styling. The idea of replacing the nose is an attempt to make a radical change to the styling. Everyone would have to agree the pig nose is a major styling element of the exterior of this car. Talking about removing that isn't equivalent to changing the color or mesh of a grille.

To me this is like saying that they'd date a woman but only after she got a nose job and breast implants.

[VetteGuy]

Originally Posted by itsmabs

I dunno feel like you end up doing this often? If you look at audi, how many S owners go aftermarket to the RS grille? I really enjoy the X3M, but I needed new springs, and I made a couple cosmetic changes. I don't think that should have been reason enough to otherwise pass on a awesome vehicle. Or how many bmw owners replace the chrome grille with black? I understand the strong negative reaction. If you overall like this car and the grille is the disappointing part, then change it to your taste. Though I tend to slightly modify my cars, so maybe I see it differently.

Well said! Hundreds of posts on here about people’s mods, more than a lot of them about swapping out the grills which are not all that attractive on F series cars. The new G22 and G2x M cars are a breath of fresh air to BMW.

No, not everyone who currently drives an older style BMW is going to like the new grills, let alone adore them, but a lot of people will. I think is looks mean. Even the grill on i4 looks a hell of a lot better than the chopped off snout of the Tesla 3.

So... love and buy it... like it and buy it and an aftermarket grill... drive what you have... or shop around and good luck finding the perfect car.

[jordan35i]

Originally Posted by Ciber

🥱

We get it, you don't like it. Now quit complaining and just don't get one.

The new M3 is what is, complaining isn't going to change it.

[oduli81]

Originally Posted by duky

BMW advertises/markets/sells to more than just people on this forum. As important as we enthusiasts think we are, there are a lot of people who will buy M3s who to-date have never seen the leaks, etc. and will learn about it via official email from BMW or insta etc.

great point

[khanyam4]

Originally Posted by Jcali86

The people who are scared of change and keep moaning about the front end? Why don't they just leave? They're always posting immediately after any news gets put on here to complain. I feel sorry for a person if a car can make them so upset!

For those of us who like the car we won't have to deal with trolls, clown and jester much longer as their time is about to expire once people start taking delivery of the m3 and m4. I highly thought they have the audacity to go to people thread and continue to do so.

[seis-speed]

I am a car nut, so I follow a lot of reveals for different cars, BMW has nailed the release and timing of the reveal. Timely bits of information just enough to pass the time and keep things interesting, not having a big gap between reveal and production. I suspect there will be journalists vids up and running right after the reveal. If the car is a great divers car - built to take on the Alpha and not the Audi then it will slowly sway the grille objectors. TBD.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by duky

BMW advertises/markets/sells to more than just people on this forum. As important as we enthusiasts think we are, there are a lot of people who will buy M3s who to-date have never seen the leaks, etc. and will learn about it via official email from BMW or insta etc.

Exactly!

[TheEnrique]

maybe they have been trolling us this entire time and the grill is a fluke.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Someone should use photoshop to play with gradients to see if it's an other Easter egg, such as "wait till the 23rd".

I also just realized the front passenger door is open there, showing the Kyalami (sp?) Orange interior, right?

[Drew10]

Originally Posted by TheEnrique

maybe they have been trolling us this entire time and the grill is a fluke.

This would be one expensive joke.

[Don_MPoor]

They can hide it through smoke but the front grills will show up eventually. I bet that's the first mod that the owner will do, either replace it or hide it with big plate cover or holder.

[Habber]

While I'm not a fan, you have to be impressed at the fact that BMW really went off course with this front end design.

In a world of homogenous car designs, I welcome the effort.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by duky

BMW advertises/markets/sells to more than just people on this forum. As important as we enthusiasts think we are, there are a lot of people who will buy M3s who to-date have never seen the leaks, etc. and will learn about it via official email from BMW or insta etc.

Thank you.

The vast majority of people who purchase any performance car do not spend a single second on the associated car forums for that brand.