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I have a feeling that this car will be very fast on road/track but at the same time very very boring to drive.
Lots of insulation, sound deadening, weak exhaust sound, slushbox tranny (smooth but geared tall). sounds alot like the x3m I drove... totally numb driving experience. |
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These handling comments align with what laps on the N'Ring have shown. It is obvious by observation the G8X is far more composed than the F8X.
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The "zero lag" comment is interesting. Can you expand on this? I have heard people whisper this about turbo motors and it's always incorrect. Was this more a comment that, at corner exit RPMs, the S58 has you well into boost range where the S55 struggled a bit? FWIW I found the S55 really bad in this regard--enough for me to skip the F8x and M2 comp. If this is what you were saying then it really sounds like the S58 has had some work done in this regard.
BTW great news on the sound insulation. I like how you put it--feels faster at lower speeds. AKA the entire point of a sporty car. Nice! Quote:
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The manual version's acceleration is identical to the f80. I feel that most of the driving experience would be the same which is why the competition is slightly more appealing with a 3.8 0-60. Just my reasoning.
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But I see your point. Most of these cars are so capable and so refined that they feel boring unless you're pushing them to their limits. These limits are so high that exploring them on public roads is dangerous. That's the impression I came away with from the M340 after driving it both on the road and on autocross.
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I'm thinking more capable but maybe less dynamic/engaging - certainly on the street. I say this given grip is so high, power is so linear, shifting is smooth and automatic, NVH is so low, cabin is more insulated, and steering is still unobtrusive in terms of chatter, bump steer, tramlining, etc. You can drive above your skill level on the track w/o any daily discomfort on the street. Honestly, you could say the same thing about new 911s. Sounds like this will check the box for the majority of target audience, and there is still the M2 for those that long for a more engaging experience.
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Only 4 laps and no numbers in order to compare tracks laps speed and others parameter |
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Down under you can already sign up to drive these on the track while in the US the cars aren’t even allowed to be released and displayed at dealers.
How is that fair...or maybe it is taken what these things cost in Aussie |
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I just checked Aus prices out of interest... wow. About US$142k for a fairly lightly spec'd car (what would be maybe $78k in the US). Add in exterior carbon + carbon seats and it's about US$160k - over A$200k. That's insane.
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They really should just release the journos reviews, it's like the longest launch in history.
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Anyhow this was expected since it's a new generation. The biggest mistake we all make is that what's good for me or what I desire is what everybody else wants. However, that's not the case, some want manuals, some want auto combined with all the electric gizmos on this planet. Then we wonder why it's challenging for manufacturers to build the perfect car. Many of these cars will be driven like camry's. Let's focus on the positive, we can still get a manual in 2021, that right there is epic and outshine the majority of the negatives one can find with this car.
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Like all M3s of past generations, in that same car you use to drive your significant other, parents, friends, kids, clients, you can also go to the track on the weekend and tear it up. You can ski with it, pick people up at the airport, etc. This is extraordinary. It's like it's friggin Christmas all over again.
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I did see it the other week at the dealership though in the Bay Area, you should call around you and see if they are stopping by any near you.
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Its like it is forgotten that the main driver of car development is the market, so customers. I'm sure BMW would build a very raw car and save the r&d for all the tech bits and so on, if thats what they could sell at a profit and high numbers. They are a big car manufacturer and have to follow the demand and as you said, people often think what they demand is the majority, in reality it's often not. |
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