Autocar rumors: G80 M3 may get active rear steering, 465hp, be lighter than F80 M3 CS

KevinM · 06-29-2018, 02:14 PM

If this is all true, good news, especially the MT.

As much as I enjoy RWD, I have to say the F80 seems to be already challenging enough to put the power down. It will be interesting to see how M enhances traction on the next M3.

jmg · 06-29-2018, 02:17 PM

Hmmm yes. I'm excited. Please don't look too goofy. The F80 is a stunning piece of sheet metal. Now with a MT, I might have to switch back to manual if there is no DCT, but that's not really a bad thing, I'm starting to miss the clutch. I'll be skipping the base model and go to a ZCP right away please, so don't keep us waiting too long bmw! Give me close to 500 at the crank and I'll be happy to feed my tire fund!!

M3 Adjuster · 06-29-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcades

MT and full Auto huh...

RIP DCT. F80 seems to be the last with the M-DCT

4 AT ; 5AT ; 6AT; SMG-1 ; SMG-2 ; SMG-3; Steptronic ; DCT; 8AT; ..... next up 10 AT?

DCT is just another version of automatic... each version of which loses out to the next one that is faster..

ThugzZ BunnY · 06-29-2018, 02:37 PM

please tell me one reason that anyone would prefer the dct over the 8 speed? neither has a clutch so the drive the same. I don't understand why people cry about this. also the 8 speed is more reliable.

ORIGIN M. · 06-29-2018, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcades

MT and full Auto huh...

RIP DCT. F80 seems to be the last with the M-DCT

4 AT ; 5AT ; 6AT; SMG-1 ; SMG-2 ; SMG-3; Steptronic ; DCT; 8AT; ..... next up 10 AT?

DCT is just another version of automatic... each version of which loses out to the next one that is faster..

Acura has a 10 speed now...

Calvin36 · 06-29-2018, 02:47 PM

Nice! 6mt with rear active steering!? Amazing. But no extra noise leaving the tailpipe! Wins and losses. Can't wait for it nonetheless!

M3 Adjuster · 06-29-2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

Hmmm yes. I'm excited. Please don't look too goofy. The F80 is a stunning piece of sheet metal. Now with a MT, I might have to switch back to manual if there is no DCT, but that's not really a bad thing, I'm starting to miss the clutch. I'll be skipping the base model and go to a ZCP right away please, so don't keep us waiting too long bmw! Give me close to 500 at the crank and I'll be happy to feed my tire fund!!

" The overall shape is familiar and suggests that the 2020 M3 will evolve the look of the current car in a similar vein to the latest 5 Series and M5 models compared with their predecessor" so... sounds like good news..

while you are waiting.. you will want to get your BMW speak correct...

you will be looking for an M3/M4 Competition MODEL right away.. not the base model... and.. based on the rollout of the M5... you will NOT have to wait long because the competition model will be announced within 6 months of the base model and will feature lots of black trim rather than chrome.

There will not be a DCT.. so it's either 6MT or 8AT...

GRUESOM3 · 06-29-2018, 02:54 PM

Let's pack some more carbon fiber in the next m3 so we can charge these guys 100 grand

Wolf · 06-29-2018, 03:00 PM

"Lighter"... By 50 Lb! Probably! Max!

?

farishat · 06-29-2018, 03:00 PM

No hood "bump" ?

Ghostriderf80 · 06-29-2018, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...p-super-saloon

The floating rear caliber. WTF. Will they offer discounts for Brembo?

lax01 · 06-29-2018, 03:04 PM

Looks 7 series big! Not good! I'll stick the M2s

aajami · 06-29-2018, 03:10 PM

Automatic is a killer :/

Influence · 06-29-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

All sounds like positive improvements except the size. I get it's just a little bigger, but are people really buying 3 series for extra rear seat legroom and a big trunk? Wish this trend would reverse...

I'm one of those folks

Sadly, I'm 6'2" with long legs, so space behind me is at a premium - and I've got 2 kids now. No one could sit behind me in my E90, and my 5-year old is just about out of space behind me in my F30 now. An extra inch or two of rear legroom would be pretty sweet.

Don't forget, BMW makes the 1 and 2-series now for those who want something smaller.

aajami · 06-29-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThugzZ BunnY

please tell me one reason that anyone would prefer the dct over the 8 speed? neither has a clutch so the drive the same. I don't understand why people cry about this. also the 8 speed is more reliable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugzZ BunnY

please tell me one reason that anyone would prefer the dct over the 8 speed? neither has a clutch so the drive the same. I don't understand why people cry about this. also the 8 speed is more reliable.

Have you driven a PDK-S car? As good as AT transmissions have gotten, they still don't compare to the best-in-class dual clutch transmissions.

M3 Adjuster · 06-29-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

This isn't going in the right direction. Is this going to be a BMW or Lexus?

The more rigid BMW structure may also allow M division engineers to give the M3 a more compliant ride in its most comfortable mode without hampering the car’s overall dynamic ability, making it a better all-rounder and potentially more forgiving in low-grip scenarios.

Ghostriderf80 · 06-29-2018, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

Automatic is a killer :/

Automatic yes, but AMG C63 also has Automatic

JustChris · 06-29-2018, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

All sounds like positive improvements except the size. I get it's just a little bigger, but are people really buying 3 series for extra rear seat legroom and a big trunk? Wish this trend would reverse...

More than any feature...this!

Germanauto · 06-29-2018, 03:21 PM

Seems like this will be an absolutely deadly sedan.

Alan l. · 06-29-2018, 03:43 PM

The G80 has BIG shoes to fill given the success of the F80.

Aside from the sound its pretty much perfect in every way. Even till this day seeing an M3 on the road with its wide hips makes you do a double take.

Alan

bmbweber · 06-29-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Habber

Keep the costs down and surprise us for once and make a zero option V8 with no nannies, MT and an amazing exhaust.

NA V8's are obsolete.

Turbo inline 6's are better in every sense.

mikeyr0x · 06-29-2018, 03:59 PM

mouth watering..
cant wait

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