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      10-17-2019, 10:31 PM   #133
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Floating rear calipers? Really? That's disappointing.
Yupp. yuck. they really ruin the look and aggression. :
Not to mention these look like the carbon ceramics, unless poor-man CC's are standard.
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Floating rear calipers? Really? That's disappointing.
Yupp. yuck. they really ruin the look and aggression. :
Not to mention these look like the carbon ceramics, unless poor-man CC's are standard.
Seriously. I don't get it
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      10-17-2019, 10:37 PM   #135
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Awesome. Like a true vert, Back to soft top.
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Probably in the minority, but glad we're back to soft tops.
You're not. Folding hard tops are a travesty, heavy and complex.
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      10-17-2019, 11:29 PM   #137
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Yupp. yuck. they really ruin the look and aggression. :
Especially with the 20" wheels ... they look lost in space compared to the 6-pots on the 19" front rims.
Also the car seems to have ceramic front rotors and iron rotors on the rear.
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Hood line - not again

Oh dear, when I saw the new 4 series concept I was so happy that they finally got rid of that stupid, hideous hood-line (ruined the F8x for me). Now it seems that that the line returns, please no

What are your guesses? In 2012 the 4 series concept had the line as well as the production car. Is there any hope for me?
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Oh dear, when I saw the new 4 series concept I was so happy that they finally got rid of that stupid, hideous hood-line (ruined the F8x for me). Now it seems that that the line returns, please no

What are your guesses? In 2012 the 4 series concept had the line as well as the production car. Is there any hope for me?
The hood line will be there. That has already been confirmed.
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      10-18-2019, 01:59 AM   #141
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Hello lurking M4, this image should be on the front page of the news guys, I can't wait for this car, it's going to be epic.
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Oh dear, when I saw the new 4 series concept I was so happy that they finally got rid of that stupid, hideous hood-line (ruined the F8x for me). Now it seems that that the line returns, please no

What are your guesses? In 2012 the 4 series concept had the line as well as the production car. Is there any hope for me?
You know the old 4 series looked good a decade ago. This is a decade later. Big grill are in, just like BBL are in. Remember to look for a registered plastic surgeon. So no more whining about the grill being big. You don't like don't buy, get a lexus.

Vert profile is nasty though. I don't get those cars at all.
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The hood line will be there. That has already been confirmed.
Confirmed by whom?
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Confirmed by whom?
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SCOTT26!
Have not seen this - you remember which post?
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Have not seen this - you remember which post?
Unfortunately no. We've had endless threads about the new 4. It would be an endeavor to find that post.
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Unfortunately no. We've had endless threads about the new 4. It would be an endeavor to find that post.
Fair enough. I just do not understand why BMW is doing this. I understand that back in 2012 there were new pedestrian law issues going on, they had the line as well on the 5 and 7 series for example. However, on the new 5 and 7 series they got rid of the line suddenly so why not for the new 3/4 series (and new 1/2 series)? Audi for example never had a hood line. Can someone tell me WHY? It ruins the whole front design IMHO
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Hood line is disgusting!

It breaks all the front.

Just imagine the 7, 5 or 8 series with a hood line..... instantly worse cars!
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Yupp. yuck. they really ruin the look and aggression. :
Especially with the 20" wheels ... they look lost in space compared to the 6-pots on the 19" front rims.
Also the car seems to have ceramic front rotors and iron rotors on the rear.
Embarrassing for BMW. One of the selling points of my F30 was the decent fixed 2 pots on the back with the M Sport Plus brakes.
I see the M6 lot have taken to buying caliper covers to hide the ugly rear floating brakes.
Sort it out BMW
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Do you think the exposed light rust colored muffler will make production?
It's hideous, can't they put a rear valance back there?
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Picture # 5 scares me.
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      10-18-2019, 11:36 AM   #152
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Floating rear calipers? Really? That's disappointing.
Absolutely, no bueno. Hopefully they can be optioned away. I really thought the days of these eye-sores were history on the M cars.
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I feel the opposite when it comes to real M cars. Before the F series BMW cars you could buy any BMW and it felt special, it had that BMW feel. M cars took that feel to level 11. Today M cars still feel like BMWs while non M cars have lost most of that special BMW feel and the gap to me feel wider than ever.
Well I will disagree with you there. I went from an E90 to an M5 and trust me aside from the power, the E90 was better at everything. M5 was good at going fast straight and maybe destroying a few modified S3's LOL... Then the F80 M3 Comp which was what I wished the E90 was. So to say regular BMW are not as good as, is wrong, get a I6 and that is a real BMW. Anything less in Cyl is just not.
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Unfortunately no. We've had endless threads about the new 4. It would be an endeavor to find that post.
I've asked Scott directly about the hood-line and it will NOT be like the Concept, the line will cut across the hood.
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