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It's a sign of the times. Society and the younger generations are more than ever obsessed with "making a statement" and "individuality" no matter how tasteless it is. The days of handsome but restrained are gone. It's all about being loud and seeking attention.
Additionally, CUVs are dominating the market so in order for sedans to survive, they really need to offer some sort of proposition over comparable CUVs. Styling is one of those areas they are really trying to emphasize. Toyota Honda Kia Hyundai etc. have done the same thing with their sedans. The Tesla Model 3's success is another factor. BMW is trying to capitalize on the fact that the Model 3 is a slightly above average looking commuter car that everybody has now. It doesn't evoke emotion in the way the new M3/4 do. The parking lot at my work place is filled with the Model 3's of colleagues. It has become an ordinary looking car that nobody looks at twice.
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I have always found the m performance parts mostly outrageous looking but im pretty new to the bmw scene so maybe thats a recent development lol i think theyre going in this direction because audi and mercedes performance sedans look pretty similar to the base version and tesla kind of has the same thing goin on so theres a big untapped market share for something with unique styling...they probably figure the purists will still buy it because it's about the only thing left with a stick. The giulia qf would probably be stiffer competition if it wasn't so notoriously unreliable that is definitely a better looking car than the m3 but I dont think i could roll the dice on not getting where I need to go 🤣
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Thanks, I guess I turned away too quickly after seeing all the other nonsense.
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I think BMW needed to diversify their ///M Brand from the rest of their vehicles. The G80/82 are what I'd call the flagship design for all upcoming ///M models. The M5/8 just look like a slightly different version of their less powerful counter parts. Gone are the days of sleeper performance models. With increasing competition they need to diversify the lineup and stand out for better or worse. I like the new M3/4 design, it's aggressive and people will unmistakably know what you're driving.
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Do any of you ever check automotive trends and notice that sedans and coupes are dying a slow death in the marketplace? It's like some of you expected this new model to look similar to the F80 where it could slowly fade into obscurity while sales numbers continued to shrink. BMW is trying to bring some attention to these cars. I can't recall if it was Motortrend or Road & Track but one columnist stated correctly after the reveal that the worst thing that can happen on a new model introduction is lack of buzz. The entire industry has been talking about these cars and it matters not how controversial it is, as long as it remains a relative topic it's a major win. When these cars start appearing on the street people are going to have double takes and be genuinely curious what the car is. Even if they don't know what to make of it at first sight the fact it got their attention is positive as if it looks like every other BMW it's just going to fade into the background. These cars are going to forever stick out in the BMW lineup going back over the generations and notoriety is better than being forgotten. Now if you don't like it, then don't buy it. It's really that simple and this "direction" is more an attempt at preservation in an ever-shrinking model segment before it gets to the point where every automaker sells CUV's and SUV's almost exclusively.
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What I have been wondering is what happened to the 'pure model' that was rumored? This model was reported on by pretty much all publications and insiders and it never materialized in the ways it was rumored to. Instead there is just a base model without much change other than less power and a manual option.
The pure was supposed to be manual transmission, significantly less weight, manual brake, cloth, a return to basics, where did it go? I was so excited. Happy to have the manual transmission, but since the launch I have been thinking what happened to the ‘pure model’....it would have been ideal, IMO. Does it come along with a CS or CSL version? |
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The only credible rumor was that they were testing an even lower power version (450ish hp) that was called "pure" which could have just as easily been a descriptive term for the manual model not a specific all out version of the car... The other line items like weight, brakes, etc were all wishful thinking that circulated enough to be treated as credible. If they are to come, you are probably right that a CSL would make sense but with a price premium to justify |
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I do intend to track this in the future, so am glad it's kept a lot of that in its DNA, but I also want tech and comfort and my wife to be able to use it easily. I also love the new look, the Audi and Mercedes options are near impossible to tell apart on the road, and I can tell most cars apart easily; there is no issue with the M3 and people want that. I'm spending $90k on this, yeah I want it to be known it's an M3 and not an M340i with a body kit, or from even further away often any 3 series, which the F80 M3 suffers from (the M4 is a little easier to distinguish) I get that was a large factor for people, the stealth/incognito appeal, but times have changed and people don't want subtle anymore. I couldn't care less about internet points (likes, upvotes etc) but for me I want an aggressive sedan, with comfort and tech and an option to enjoy on a track - nothing comes close to the G80!
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I will agree with you on one thing, you are the absolute targeted audience for this car. Someone who wants a 'look at me in my $90k car' and that's fine for you. But for the rest of us its just not what we expected BMW to deliver. Whether I move into one I don't know but it certainly won't be because I want a car that will let everyone know that I have made it in this life. Finally how do you know nothing comes close the G80? Because BMW and the paid youtuber shills told you so? You haven't driven one let alone sat in one. |
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