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      09-08-2020, 11:02 PM   #133
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I'll take the centered quad cluster exhaust over the ginormous butterfly kidney grill any day!
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Could be another mid/rear engine mule.
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And when you couldn't make it any worse...you go and redeem yourself by making the rear hideous!

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Exploring is great! I'm all for new ideas...let's wait and see what they will look like on the streets

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      09-09-2020, 12:02 AM   #136
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I showed this to my wife and she goes, "it looks like a frowny face."
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      09-09-2020, 12:42 AM   #137
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After the E46 M3 it all went to shit.

Shame on you BMW lol
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      09-09-2020, 01:34 AM   #138
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It feels like a-la James Bond future car! With matching 4 grenade launchers. Whoever mess up with the humongous front grills they will get the taste of it.

They're really missing the bmw ingenuity and authenticity. BMW should take this shit seriously and fire someone from the design team.
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      09-09-2020, 01:47 AM   #139
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I quite like the central exhausts, admittedly 2 would look better than 4 but its still cool imo.
Looks like the rear wing has 'swan' mounts so its obviously a functioning piece & not just cosmetic.
If it's a gts or csl then it should differ from the usual M, if the styling is too hard core or whatever for you when released then don't buy it.
Imo the biggest issue with the new 4 series is the size, it's just too big.
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      09-09-2020, 03:56 AM   #140
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After the E46 M3 it all went to shit.

Shame on you BMW lol
That or it's Stockholm syndrome, I've had two now and can't bring myself to sell it.
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      09-09-2020, 05:41 AM   #141
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For my taste, just two exhaust tipps in the middle (like Porsche GT models) would look better. But since 4 exhaust tipps always was a ///M sign ... they were forced going this route?
Wing is very small. Too small for having serious effect. So rather a M Performance part addon than the wing of a CSL or GTS model.
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I've hated other recent designs but like this

I've been on the bandwagon of many others not liking the direction of the new M3 and M4 (and this is someone whose had a E92, F80 and soon F87 CS and love all three designs).

However I seem to be breaking off from the pack when it comes to the rear of this new car. My first reaction was "that is cool!" and "I'd love that in the garage". I can even sense it making a whole lot more sense of the front of the G80/82 which at the moment i think is disjointed from the rest of the vehicle.
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      09-09-2020, 07:21 AM   #143
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      09-09-2020, 07:48 AM   #144
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Oh, 100% agreed.. the E60 is gorgeous to me.. specially the LCI.. I found it to be the right mix of curves and German business sedan look. but apparently all paid reviewers hated it...

Currently I have an F10 so I'm biased but I had the e60 535xi and even an e60 550i..loved both!!
I had an LCI, E60 535i RWD, it was sublime. It had slightly lower springs from the factory with wider wheels. It was just a handsome and excellent driving car. My dad still talks about how much he enjoyed it every time he had an opportunity to. Materials were top notch too. At first glance it was just a 5 series of the e60 generation. Then as you got closer and experienced the car and interior, it was a a leap forward.
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      09-09-2020, 10:23 AM   #147
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I think they are trying to say..you think the original e65 was a bad design and the e60 was the worst looking 5...wait till we have our way on the 3/4 series... I think the former e53/Mclaren designer laid it out best... There's so much design conflict going on with the 4 series..
The E60 LCI is an awesome 5 series, very agile and light on it’s feet, excellent steering feel, great engines and a gazillion times more interesting and appealing design than the boring and isolated F10 and G30 that followed.
Agree. Love mine and will never sell.

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      09-09-2020, 10:51 AM   #148
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I will tell you whats going on

If you think the M8 looks like a Mustang you need your eyes examined stat ‼️





If you don't see it I don't know what to tell you.

And let's hope that this little trinket doesn't make the final form of whatever this was testing in Germany a few weeks back

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      09-09-2020, 11:05 AM   #149
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The check of the licence plate reveals that it's an additional M4 (Straße) with Advanced prototype track package.

Makes sense. As they talk about M4 as their 911. In other word to emulate increased performance models across the spectrum.
Still at least eighteen months away.
But it could end up being Orange.
Think the new M4 size wise is closer to a Panamera than a 911...it will never have the agility of the 911

Instead, make the G87 M2 their 911, the M2C their 911 GTS, the M2CS their 911 GT3 and the M2CSL their 911 GT3RS

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Think the new M4 is closer to the Panamera than a 911 size wise.
Umm

The Panamera is in the D Class segment (7er/S-Class).
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That exhaust setup reminds me of a redneck modifications people do to their cars.

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I'm assuming this will be auto only and cost six figures. At that point, I can't see any benefits (other than having additional space and being a BMW) over let's say a C8 Z06.
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      09-09-2020, 11:57 AM   #153
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For my taste, just two exhaust tipps in the middle (like Porsche GT models) would look better. But since 4 exhaust tipps always was a ///M sign ... they were forced going this route?
Wing is very small. Too small for having serious effect. So rather a M Performance part addon than the wing of a CSL or GTS model.
Not always...

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      09-09-2020, 12:51 PM   #154
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Not always...

Yeah the M1 e28/34/30/36 all had single twin exhausts the quads came in from e39/46 onwards if I recall correctly.
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