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      09-08-2020, 11:21 AM   #45
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I am telling you, BMW is keep chasing Lexus design
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I am telling you, BMW is keep chasing Lexus design
They're losing their identity, or rather, throwing it away
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WTF is wrong with BMW?! It may have worked okay on the IS-F, but this interpretation is awful.
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My money would be on m Performance kit testing. Its always released just about the same time as the cars these days so its a good little snippet introduction image.

Far too soon for CSL type stuff that is 2-3 years away perhaps at least.

For me, refreshing to see a different approach and it would certainly be more visible that you'd gone down the M Perforamance route now.
The M4GTS was released less than 2 years after the M4 (Oct-2015 vs Dec-2013). IMO, it's not that early to see M4CSL prototypes.
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Looks like the next GTS going to be wild
You mean CSL
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2019 sales in US.

Lexus - 2,383,349
Bmw - 324,826

Maybe us loyalists won't be buying them but perhaps they are not stupid either?
Did you..... just include the sales of Toyota in that Lexus number?

Here let me fix that for you:
2019 sales in US:

Lexus - 298,114
BMW - 324,826
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Did you..... just include the sales of Toyota in that Lexus number?

Here let me fix that for you:
2019 sales in US:

Lexus - 298,114
BMW - 324,826
I was like there's no way 2 million people bought lexuses (lexi?) in NA alone!
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We have a 2016 M4 with a custom Eisenmann exhaust that exits at the same location for sale at my dealership.

The car only has 500 miles on it. So many extras I don't know where to begin.

I don't think I can mention the dealership on here but I can tell you it's in the state capital of Illinois.

If nothing else take a look at it.
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BMW does not want to be BMW anymore with the 4-Series.
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I was like there's no way 2 million people bought lexuses (lexi?) in NA alone!
Yeah I was like.... I know they sell a ton of RX's... but a luxury brand being one of the highest selling brands in the country??
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2019 sales in US.

Lexus - 2,383,349
Bmw - 324,826

Maybe us loyalists won't be buying them but perhaps they are not stupid either?
I think people buy Toyota/Lexus for reasons other than looks. People buy bland/ugly looking cars if they are reliable and get them from point a to point b.
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The worse part is LFA actually looks better....
And the Pagani Zonda where Lexus likely got the inspiration from looks better than the Lexus. Nice to see this setup trickle down to more affordable cars every ten years

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2019 sales in US.

Lexus - 298,112
Bmw - 324,826

Maybe us loyalists won't be buying them but perhaps they are not stupid either?
Fixed that for you .

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/lexus-us-sales-figures/
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IMO Porsche and Audi just have a better platform to build on for the future hybrid sports car world. The cars just look like they are meant to be part electric. BMW is left scrambling. No clue where they are going stylistically.

Sad, after riding in BMWs since the 80s I may be looking around sooner than later....

Unless like someone else said, we get the G81, then I’ll come back with my tail between my legs, deposit in hand.
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Did you..... just include the sales of Toyota in that Lexus number?

Here let me fix that for you:
2019 sales in US:

Lexus - 298,114
BMW - 324,826
Just saw you beat me to it
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Intriguing, I would have expected a much larger wing and wider skirts on the CSL. Maybe an early mule with mainly a regular M4 body.
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I think I found the inspiration for this...
Think they took the inspiration from the wrong specific vehicle in their back catalogue haha. Not sure how they manage to come up with these design choices, but really, i'm not surprised anymore
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BMW has officially gone nuts. Someone needs to bust the execs/designers on all the crack and meth they're clearly doing.
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