[mthreesixty3]

Would you all buy a fully loaded RWD (21'. 18k miles, dravit/buckets/full leather) for $70k or spec a new '25 with xdrive & similar spec (maybe individual color)

I have an allocation for a '25 & have most of the build configured, coming out to right around $100k...

Just wondering if the Xdrive and newer car is worth the extra $30k?

Can anyone chime in?

[cozye]

X drive doesn’t cost 30k. I think you are failing to acknowledge 4 years, 18k miles, and potential differences between what you want and what the used car is.

[mthreesixty3]

Originally Posted by cozye

X drive doesn’t cost 30k. I think you are failing to acknowledge 4 years, 18k miles, and potential differences between what you want and what the used car is.

"Xdrive AND newer car" worth $30k is what i said in the message above!

It's basically what i would spec almost to a T(- xdrive and i would probably do a different color interior but the interior is my 2nd choice with that color (dravit w/silverstone - i would do fiona)

[cozye]

My bad..

Personally, it would be worth the new car to me. I don’t like the idea of used cars in general, especially high performance cars that I dont know how were treated. Not totally opposed to a used car if I was certain on the history.

My view is that if you are going to spend this much money on a dream machine, you should get exactly what you want, without compromise, or you will always be a bit dissatisfied. The wait is worth it, gives you something to look forward to, and when you get it, every detail will be exactly what you want.

Now that being said, if you are going into debt for it, thats another consideration. Perhaps you have to compromise to do the smart thing financially.

Just my .02.

[g80.py]

Maybe ask yourself if you plan on selling it. If you are then get xdrive they seem to not depreciate as much as rwd. I personally went with a new one just to have the piece of mind of having what I like and if there are any issues on the car it’s because of my history not someone else’s .

[cozye]

Also factor in the first 4 years of service work being free.

[Mrproper86]

I first ordered a rwd , but ended up switching it to the xdrive, since its only 4000$ more and well worth the money. I wouldn’t bother with the rwd.

[Cloudplay]

Drove an RWD M4 for a 1000 miles in Germany. Loved the engine and the car overall, but not that I was never quite sure what the rear was going to do even in 3rd gear. I now have ~300 miles on my xdrive M3 and I find it much more usable. Just my preference, of course.

[christianb5s4]

Xdrive is the most desirable, and not only does it give all the advantages, but still gives flexibility of RWD on the fly.

[nu2M]

xDrive if you’re willing to fork out the cash. Better resale value, if you care, but more importantly, you can better utilize the performance of the car with the xDrive. I had a stage 2 tuned 991.2 GTS and it would let you know when the rear was going to give but even with the xDrive, the G80 feels a bit uneasy at times. I can only imagine how much more unstable it is in the RWD G80. All in all, can’t go wrong either way.

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by cozye

Also factor in the first 4 years of service work being free.

Originally Posted by nu2M

xDrive if you’re willing to fork out the cash. Better resale value, if you care, but more importantly, you can better utilize the performance of the car with the xDrive. I had a stage 2 tuned 991.2 GTS and it would let you know when the rear was going to give but even with the xDrive, the G80 feels a bit uneasy at times. I can only imagine how much more unstable it is in the RWD G80. All in all, can’t go wrong either way.

Xdrive is 100% the better performance car in all conditions!!!!

That said I’m on the opposite side.

6MT RWD!

[JDUNITNOW]

Originally Posted by nu2M

xDrive if you’re willing to fork out the cash. Better resale value, if you care, but more importantly, you can better utilize the performance of the car with the xDrive. I had a stage 2 tuned 991.2 GTS and it would let you know when the rear was going to give but even with the xDrive, the G80 feels a bit uneasy at times. I can only imagine how much more unstable it is in the RWD G80. All in all, can’t go wrong either way.

RWD are very stable and manage the power in stock form. Never had my backend kick out unless I made it do so. Of course I don't take off traction control that often because I'm not on track and racing someone for that two tenths of a second by disengaging it. I'm sure the xDrive is the better car but the price increases and interest rates keep me from finding out.😆

[rowdydaoudy]

Few factors I'd consider if I were in your position:

- Do you have the means to comfortably get the new one?
- How long do you plan to keep it?
- How much power are you looking to make out of it?

I did PCD, which was tracking a G80 comp rwd and I was amazing with how hard I pushed it, it was incredibly stable. I'm kinda in the same situation as you are. I have a G80 6mt, but considering going into an xdrive, but it would have to be new, since I want a very specific individual combo. I'd end up spending probably $20k more between selling mine and getting the new one, not including the loss I'm taking on all the mods I've done to mine lol.

[N1rve]

IMO Any car with over 400 ft/lbs of torque needs AWD. Not HP, but torque. It makes the car much easier to drive fast and it's more confidence inspiring. Easier to launch from zero as well without much wheel spin. If you can afford the AWD I would get it. I wish the F8X came with AWD as an option because it's hard to launch due to the amount of torque.

[Mike02z]

Having had both it really depends on what you want. If you want the best 0-60, or plan to run at a drag track, or live in the snow belt go XDrive. I wanted a manual transmission so my current car is RWD. Easier to drift if that’s your thing. Honestly, if you could get XDrive with a manual I may have had a harder decision to make.

[f30dreamin]

I live in Chicago and in the past have owned, FWD, RWD, and AWD. I have a M3 stick shift on order. I plan on daily driving it and will most likely get a set of winter wheels and tires. Not have a stick shift would have been a deal breaker for me. Don’t comes down to what works best for you, your finances etc. I also went individual paint.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by mthreesixty3

Would you all buy a fully loaded RWD (21'. 18k miles, dravit/buckets/full leather) for $70k or spec a new '25 with xdrive & similar spec (maybe individual color)

I have an allocation for a '25 & have most of the build configured, coming out to right around $100k...

Just wondering if the Xdrive and newer car is worth the extra $30k?

Can anyone chime in?

Can’t answer what factors are worth to you.

Last August, I bought a 17 month old ‘22, 1300 miles, CPO, maintenance plan, ppf, MSRP of $84k for $81k all in. Car has all of my must have specs. I was also considering new. I could afford new.

I liked avoiding spending more and getting what I wanted while avoiding the inflation of the past couple of years.

So, for me, the expense of the new car wasn’t worth it to me.

Oh, if I wanted the automatic, I would most certainly get the x drive.

[pizza240]

Most people would suggest xDrive, and I have xDrive... but it's worth noting that I drive my car in 2WD most of the time when it's dry out.
I got xDrive for Canadian winters and snow. You probably don't have to deal with that.

Of course, the extra traction during acceleration is great with xDrive, but if you're not drag racing, then I think RWD is more fun. It feels more like the older M cars.

Plus the MDM mode on the RWD cars is a bit more of a fun safety net for sliding as compared with the 10-stage TC. On xDrive cars, MDM is not available in 2WD mode.
You get used to TC (I usually have the TC on 3/10) but you're on your own with regards to stability control. If I had MDM available for 2WD mode on my car, I'd use that most of the time.
In M Sport 4WD mode, it intervenes a bit too quickly... but still a blast.

$30K is a big price difference. If you are prioritizing straight line performance in gears 1-2, it's a no-brainer: go with xDrive.
If you only care about sticking the tail out, then RWD is great.

Other posted about the 4-year maintenance, and I agree that it's nice to have that.
Also really nice to have a new car with every option you want... and the extra hp is nice.

Tough call, but wanted to share my thoughts on why I like RWD.

[mjj]

Why do you see Mustang and older Corvette drivers routinely on you tube leaving Cars & Coffee?

Lots of torque, No AWD and novice drivers can combine for spectacular & tragic videos.

[DoubleDave]

Interesting responses in this thread.

It boils down to what it is you really want, I wouldn’t settle for any car in this price range if it wasn’t what I wanted.

Seems like you’ve made up your mind and are trying to talk yourself into the cheaper car. My simple advice is don’t do it, get what you want and be happy with it.

I bought the RWD manual because I wanted a manual. The car is very easy to control and has never gone sideways on me, quite the contrary…I find it very predictable.

[user12464]

Originally Posted by pizza240

Most people would suggest xDrive, and I have xDrive... but it's worth noting that I drive my car in 2WD most of the time when it's dry out.
I got xDrive for Canadian winters and snow. You probably don't have to deal with that.

Of course, the extra traction during acceleration is great with xDrive, but if you're not drag racing, then I think RWD is more fun. It feels more like the older M cars.

Plus the MDM mode on the RWD cars is a bit more of a fun safety net for sliding as compared with the 10-stage TC. On xDrive cars, MDM is not available in 2WD mode.
You get used to TC (I usually have the TC on 3/10) but you're on your own with regards to stability control. If I had MDM available for 2WD mode on my car, I'd use that most of the time.
In M Sport 4WD mode, it intervenes a bit too quickly... but still a blast.

$30K is a big price difference. If you are prioritizing straight line performance in gears 1-2, it's a no-brainer: go with xDrive.
If you only care about sticking the tail out, then RWD is great.

Other posted about the 4-year maintenance, and I agree that it's nice to have that.
Also really nice to have a new car with every option you want... and the extra hp is nice.

Tough call, but wanted to share my thoughts on why I like RWD.

If you get the M3 CS coding it make the MDM in 4WD give you more leeway. More fun and closer to RWD feel but still with stability intervention and the front wheels start pulling after you get tail happy for a bit.

In answer to the OP, I have the x-drive but have driven the 2wd at 2 day M school. The X-drive is faster and better, but not necessarily more fun. I don't think it's worth the 20k+ you would spend to upgrade to X-drive unless you are after better performance in slippery conditions like wet or snowy roads. And frankly if you have the space I'd just use the 20k to get another car for those conditions.

[Delmoney335]

As a '21 RWD owner, I can say that I have never felt a lack of traction or control. Only when the stock Pirellis were at their death, did I feel any slip at all. Not surprising the majority will say to go with X-Drive but I think the price tags you are comparing are substantial. One thing is the RWD vs X-Drive debate but another is new vs. used. I would be more hesitant of buying used than because it is RWD. However $30K is quite the difference.

I think as others have stated, think about what you want from it. If you are concerned with modding and racing everyone at stoplights, then X-drive sure. If you want an all around great car for a value, the RWD may be the way to go. The majority of the opinions you are going to get here are X-Drive is so much better than RWD and I don't necessarily believe that as absolute.