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      04-01-2021, 10:28 PM   #89
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Will somebody just design a completely new bumper with a regular grill (vertical slats) and restore this monstrosity to the gory it deserves?!
Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
So a mini M8?

Nah.
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This is moving in the right direction. I'm excited to see what else they come up with.

The lower painted outlines of the grill don't help IMO.
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I like the open look grill area of the GT3. Maybe IND can come up with something similar? That would make me want a G82.
I love this grille.
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
So a mini M8?

Nah.
Agreed! I'm not a fan of the M8 much either.
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      04-02-2021, 12:29 AM   #95
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Another thread for all the grille haters to spew their garbage
QFTMFT. I don't understand how these trolls who despise the car so much but yet still come to this section of the forum time and time again.
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      04-02-2021, 12:40 AM   #96
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once you've seen it , it can't be unseen, the whole thing would have to redesigned from scratch
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      04-02-2021, 12:47 AM   #97
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Blah, those renders look like shit. I do commend IND for trying.

If you people don't like the grille, don't buy the goddamn car. Have more people ever cried about something on a BMW then they have with this?
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
So a mini M8?

Nah.
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
This is so much better than anything else I've seen yet!
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It’s like putting lipstick on a pig. You need to start from scratch and redesign the whole god damn front bumper.
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      04-02-2021, 01:37 AM   #100
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A+ for effort but what's done is done. The lines on the car are strange and the center of the grill being black hides the strange lines and shapes the best. Without a bumper redesign I don't think the look can really be "fixed"
I agree. The grille being frameless makes it a near impossible task to make it look smaller, or to break it up into chunks. It will look massive regardless. And BMW has designed the aero around the grilles as well, so nothing short of a massive overhaul will make much of a difference. I would just lean into it like the GT3 racecar that was posted and embrace the hugeness.
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      04-02-2021, 01:40 AM   #101
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
Yea, I feel like if I'm going to do anything to change the grilles (which I'm not) I'd want them to look like 'normal' BMW grilles just like that design. Just adding a body colored bar through the center more slightly masks rather than solves the problem.
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
this!
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      04-02-2021, 02:36 AM   #103
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What's really weird is that, as in the render above, in many countries you have to fix a large oblong number plate right in the middle of the grille anyway, including in Germany:



This completely breaks the whole design flow of a vertical grille like this. For those of us in such countries, the mandatory plate simply spoils the whole thing. We can see the logic of the new design if it's 'bare' - but in our locales, it looks a mess, like a quick Photoshop with a plate cut-and-pasted on as an afterthought.
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IND you're doing a great job in trying different things to get the grill to look great. Painting the middle to be body-colored along with it being solid along with the lower part being black will go a long way to improve the design.

I think the coffin-style, horizontal lines at the top are still too in your face for you to cut it off, so it'll look somewhat strange to have a half-open shape that looks unfinished. Ideally, you'd want to have the vertical lines like current and previous BMWs, like this quick photoshop I threw together.

good job. its way to go
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Some have tried. This is my favorite so far.
i believe it belongs to prior design. the best design till now
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      04-02-2021, 03:14 AM   #106
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BMW has many of the very best, most elite automotive designers and 3D modeling artists in the world. Even if you're not a fan of the direction, there's a reason "OEM" looks "OEM".

There's so many subtle details in OEM BMW design that we completely take for granted, but stick out like sore, ham-fistedly molded thumbs when they're executed to a lower standard. The bottom line is that BMW's artists are orders of magnitude better than the guys at our favorite aftermarket outfits. It's like street ballers vs. LeBron James. Amateurs vs. pros.

Every render and physical exploration has looked super unprofessional or like a photoshop mashup of BMW's own multi-million dollar professional designs and art from other models. Very few are going to swap polished OEM design for unpolished aftermarket work on the front fascia of an $80-100k vehicle. Commit to the time, effort, and expense of commissioning top-flight artists or hit the pause button and wait 3-5 years for values to sufficiently drop and less discerning owners to get in the G8x game.
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Timeline of G8x grille reception:

2019/20: Spy photos and camoed test cars :
2020: Official press release with photos :
2021: First test drives and deliveries :
202x: Car has been on the market for a while


Come to think of it, the general reception to the F8x followed the exact same timeline, just change the years...

Just do the same as Evolve has done after seeing the car in person, drop redesigning a new grille/front end.
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QFTMFT. I don't understand how these trolls who despise the car so much but yet still come to this section of the forum time and time again.
They actually love the car (it's a BMW forum after all, people here love the brand for the most part, don't forget that), not how it looks... I'd really want to buy it, but i don't want to feel let down by the look after i spent 6 figures on one.
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I can't believe this thread made it to the front page of Bimmerpost. If you hate the grills THAT much get another car. The designers collectively spent thousands of hours making all the shapes and components work together as best possible and no aftermarket "fix" will ever look better. Adding a carbon lip, or a sportier hood, can be nice touches, but don't change the design language of practically the entire front end...it won't ever look right.

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IND you're doing a great job in trying different things to get the grill to look great. Painting the middle to be body-colored along with it being solid along with the lower part being black will go a long way to improve the design.

I think the coffin-style, horizontal lines at the top are still too in your face for you to cut it off, so it'll look somewhat strange to have a half-open shape that looks unfinished. Ideally, you'd want to have the vertical lines like current and previous BMWs, like this quick photoshop I threw together.

Nailed it. Best looking version I've seen.

IND, go for this
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