Suggest a snowmageddon vehicle for me

JJ 911SC · 12-18-2021, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

... my criteria:

.new
.AWD
.relatively COMPACT (so no Broncos, Hummers lol, etc), so small SUVs, CUVs, maybe even coupes, sedans or wagons if very capable
.ideally DCT but AT is acceptable
.must be able to carry 4 tires/wheels and at least 2 ppl at same time
.roughly CAD60,000 MSRP (~USD47,000)

That's all I can think of right now, TIA.

Pourquoi?

M-technik-3 · 12-18-2021, 07:13 AM

Back in the 90's I loved my Audi 4000CSQ 5 spd that someone had added a Calloway turbo kit to it being the old cars had manual locking diffs at the rear and the center There was never a time I got that thing stuck unless I was trying to play Mr Plow.

Sad it's gone

stein_325i · 12-18-2021, 09:02 AM

I'm gonna pile on and also say A4 Allroad, its pretty much scores in all criteria.

New ✅
AWD ✅
Compact ✅
DCT ✅
4 Tires + 2ppl ✅
CAD $60k ✅ (Starts at CAD $51k)

tranquility · 12-18-2021, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

Pourquoi?

Je besoin un meilleur véhicule pour les transporter parce que c'est une corvée avec ma Z4 (qui a besoin 2 voyages).

[I need a better vehicle to transport them as it is a chore with my Z4 (which needs 2 trips).]

JJ 911SC · 12-18-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

Je besoin un meilleur véhicule pour les transporter parce que c'est une corvée avec ma Z4 (qui a besoin 2 voyages).

[I need a better vehicle to transport them as it is a chore with my Z4 (which needs 2 trips).]

So, you deliver Wheel and Tires?

tranquility · 12-18-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

So, you deliver Wheel and Tires?

Whenever I need to change my tires, I'd prefer to torque my lug bolts myself as many times they over-tighten, so if I could deliver just the wheel(s) to them (bonus: and not have them fumble around w my car), that's my preference.

________ · 12-18-2021, 11:17 AM

I like the Audi idea too. Didn't think of it. The allroad has more ground clearance and is cheaper. Might be worth a test drive.

Biased as I also own an Audi, but because I need a 7-passenger and BMW doesn't have a good 7 passenger vehicle.

tranquility · 12-18-2021, 11:33 AM

Hmmm, I've been out of the market for so long, I guess ppl would suggest S4 but because of my budget criterion suggest A4? Is S4 worth the $$$ premium over the A4? Are there other variants to that range?

Coincidentally, I once considered the S4 before I got my car.

________ · 12-18-2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

Hmmm, I've been out of the market for so long, I guess ppl would suggest S4 but because of my budget criterion suggest A4? Is S4 worth the $$$ premium over the A4? Are there other variants to that range?

Coincidentally, I once considered the S4 before I got my car.

No, the Allroad suggestion was because it's a station wagon that's higher off the ground.

I don't believe they're selling S4s anymore anyway, and I wouldn't recommend them.

I mentioned the Allroad is cheaper than the X3, and it looks really good.

In your position I'd drive both to compare. I settled on the Audi in my use case.

Had an X3 that served me well until 7-passenger became a need.

gary_william · 12-18-2021, 01:34 PM

Toyota Tacoma meets your needs.

tranquility · 12-18-2021, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gary_william

Toyota Tacoma meets your needs.

Looks great but unfortunately not a pickup fan.

chassis · 12-18-2021, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

Looks great but unfortunately not a pickup fan.

tranquility How are you progressing on narrowing down the choice? When is your target date to purchase?

tranquility · 12-18-2021, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chassis

tranquility How are you progressing on narrowing down the choice? When is your target date to purchase?

Still exploring, no definite deadline.

jmg · 12-21-2021, 09:04 PM

Subaru Outback sounds like it checks most of those boxes, being more a wagon rather than an SUV. Enough room for wheels and tires and 2 passengers. Also consider a roof rack if you want to be economical with space. Get the "Wilderness" of you want a bit more:

BMWbiker · 12-24-2021, 09:15 PM

IMHO, the exact vehicle is less important than the quality of the snow tires.

Do your research, to find out what the highest-quality snow/ice tires are. Then pick an AWD vehicle with decent ground clearance to fit the tires. Or, conversely, choose a decent AWD vehicle with good ground clearance, then choose the highest quality snow/ice tires you can buy for it.

My B5 S4 was amazing in the snow, when the snow tires were mounted. It would literally plow the snow as it drove through deep fresh snow. I once went driving on a road otherwise populated with snowmobiles. Pickup trucks and SUVs were stuck by the side of the road, probably not equipped with snow tires. Low ground clearance is all that kept it from being able to drive through truly deep snow.

I haven't tested my current car in such snow, due to lack of opportunity.

TexasJester · 01-01-2022, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by grannyknot

A Subaru Outback AWD, I live in a rural area north of Toronto and leave for work before my snow plow guy shows up and sometimes before the Township plows clear the roads.
Never had a problem yet. Although, I do have to maneuver around the Suzuki's, Jimmy's and Jeep's that are stuck.

It is the preferred vehicle of choice in Colorado. Those guys swear by them. All my trips up there the only time I seen one stopped was because some dummy in a jeep was stuck. They are so popular in the Lake Tahoe area they sell for $8000 over sticker. Now that is a statement right there because in Texas they have to discount them to get rid of them.

Germanauto · 01-01-2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

Subaru Outback sounds like it checks most of those boxes, being more a wagon rather than an SUV. Enough room for wheels and tires and 2 passengers. Also consider a roof rack if you want to be economical with space. Get the "Wilderness" of you want a bit more:]

Ah yes the car of choice for 60mph left lane camping nerds.

Anybody with a passion for cars wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback.

jmg · 01-01-2022, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Germanauto

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmg

Subaru Outback sounds like it checks most of those boxes, being more a wagon rather than an SUV. Enough room for wheels and tires and 2 passengers. Also consider a roof rack if you want to be economical with space. Get the "Wilderness" of you want a bit more:]

Ah yes the car of choice for 60mph left lane camping nerds.

Anybody with a passion for cars wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback.

I used to have a Subaru Forester which is basically one step removed, and I think I have a passion for cars. We used to take it light off-roading. I remember one time I was navigating a river crossing that I had slightly misjudged. I was inches away from water getting into the cabin. I couldn't help but think about the posers in their Land Rovers at the mall that probably don't even like to take them out in the rain because they it would get dirty.

grannyknot · 01-01-2022, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Germanauto

Ah yes the car of choice for 60mph left lane camping nerds.

Anybody with a passion for cars wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback.

What a stupid comment.

JJ 911SC · 01-01-2022, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Germanauto

Ah yes the car of choice for 60mph left lane camping nerds.

Anybody with a passion for cars wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback.

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Originally Posted by grannyknot

What a stupid comment.

LMFT4U...

Dummer Kommentar.

Germanauto · 01-01-2022, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by grannyknot

What a stupid comment.

OP drives a Z4 and is a poster on a BMW forum. Why would he drive an Outback? An asshole comment yes, stupid no.

tranquility · 01-01-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Germanauto

OP drives a Z4 and is a poster on a BMW forum. Why would he drive an Outback? An asshole comment yes, stupid no.

Well, that's actually my pt, to get something totally different and that's not a sportscar/sporty car and to be best prepared if some freak snowmageddon occurred.

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BMWbiker Second Lieutenant 381 Rep 220 Posts Drives: 2015 328i xdrive wagon Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	IMHO, the exact vehicle is less important than the quality of the snow tires. Do your research, to find out what the highest-quality snow/ice tires are. Then pick an AWD vehicle with decent ground clearance to fit the tires. Or, conversely, choose a decent AWD vehicle with good ground clearance, then choose the highest quality snow/ice tires you can buy for it. My B5 S4 was amazing in the snow, when the snow tires were mounted. It would literally plow the snow as it drove through deep fresh snow. I once went driving on a road otherwise populated with snowmobiles. Pickup trucks and SUVs were stuck by the side of the road, probably not equipped with snow tires. Low ground clearance is all that kept it from being able to drive through truly deep snow. I haven't tested my current car in such snow, due to lack of opportunity. __________________ A BMW car and several BMW motorcycles
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