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I agree that this is an absolutely disgusting design, and I was initially upset, but I no longer care as BMW is mostly dead to me at this point. I think what most of you are forgetting is that BMW stopped building cars for enthusiasts long ago. That's no longer their market. These will sell, ~90% of them will be leases, and the people that buy them will simply buy them for the badge recognition or to have something different. The problem that BMW faces long term is that when the enthusiasts stop buying, the badge recognition eventually goes away. But they'll be balls deep in electric cars by that time so it won't matter.
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03-04-2020, 01:55 PM | #288 | |
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If like you you pretty much only have the design left as a plus and that is no longer to your liking it’s understandable. |
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03-04-2020, 01:59 PM | #289 |
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"Gentlemen, our work is almost complete. But what this bold design really deserves is a neon yellow/green color to match. We shall name it Sao Paulo Yellow!"
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03-04-2020, 02:03 PM | #290 |
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Sol.... for me atleast this is the case, i dont want a big car anymore and anything more than 500hp on day streets is just a stat anyway and not usable. Im moving on to a 2 car scenario, and while ill still likely always have a bmw on my driveway, ill go elsewhere for a sports sedan/car....
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03-04-2020, 02:11 PM | #292 |
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I think this design change really took on a life of it own. I read a lot of the posts and I think some of us lost perspective on the current car market:
If you drive automatic and don't like the new design, you have plenty of choices so just buy an Audi, Benz etc or simply take one of the current generation M since there are dozens that are available on the lot today. If you are like me and love 6MT, get the M2. If you like to complain for the sake of complaining, keep posting!! |
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03-04-2020, 02:12 PM | #293 |
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Exactly why the Phaeton was sales poison:
Nobody wants a budget bentley or high-dollar volkswagen. That strategy didn't work the first time when it was called the Chrysler TC in the late 80s which was a cheap Maserati. BMW is betting that new-to-the-brand buyers (esp in China) will outnumber fleeing existing customers ... FYI BMW: just like budget luxury cars, that strategy has never once worked. |
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03-04-2020, 02:31 PM | #295 |
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"Could be"? lol
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03-04-2020, 02:35 PM | #296 | |
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03-04-2020, 03:00 PM | #297 |
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Not everything can be "warmed up to". I've strayed away from plenty of cars that made such drastic changes they flipped from a would-buy to a would-never-buy
This new look, coming from the F80, almost hurts. I felt the F80 was the best looking non supercar from the last decade. I doubt the G8X cars will be in my top 20 for this coming decade |
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03-04-2020, 03:23 PM | #298 |
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From HowStuffWorks "Why the Ford Edsel Failed":
"Ford designers wanted to make it stand out, so they hit on the idea of a vertical grille. The thing is, a car's grille has a specific purpose: It allows air into the engine bay to keep the engine cool. In order to keep the Edsel running, that vertical grille had to be enormous, which made the entire car look silly in the eyes of critics and consumers." https://auto.howstuffworks.com/why-t...sel-failed.htm
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03-04-2020, 04:10 PM | #299 | |
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But Ford marketing never used the words "bold" and "presence in abundance" - that's the difference here. |
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03-04-2020, 04:31 PM | #300 | |
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It will be amazing in person. Also, its BMW of the future. We all will get used to it, everyone had mixed feelings about the e90, F80 etc... Hopefully they will make the option for the blue you have on the CS. |
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03-04-2020, 04:34 PM | #301 |
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I wonder if years down the line the F80 will be looked at as the last true M3.
The backlash the F80 got just as bad as E9X got when it was new. "Not a true M3! Too big! Too heavy! Wrong engine." And then down the line everyone loved it. |
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03-04-2020, 05:06 PM | #302 |
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Other than bigger grills, what about the new G80 will make it less M3 than the F80 when at least with spec'd with a Manual and RWD. Now with a regular auto and awd, I see the point, but with a manual and rwd, the G80 doesn't present a big change mechanically, more just an evolution of the F80 formula, only visually is it a revolution.
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Now....for the 6 speed RWD G80, different story. I agree there as well. Looks wise, the F8X is a sexy, stunning car. I cannot get past the front end of a G80. I will be buying out my F80, and maybe get a Z4 M40i or something. I don't want to jump the BMW ship. I've been in all the competitors and they don't do it for me. |
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Don't you guys get tired of losing your shit over these leak threads? I know I am. It's like coming home every night and seeing that the dog shit on the foyer carpet again.
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Source? Its surprising to hear bc the headlights, grill, and bumper seem quite different to me
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