[frankiebones]

My first service adviser told me in 2016 than my F80 wouldn't go into "M2" mode until the break in service lol.

[BushwoodCC]

Originally Posted by chris3g

Anything that comes from an SA should be assumed BS until proven otherwise. The technical manual for this car has been posted on this site - download it and read it, it's a phenomenal resource. Just by doing that you will have more accurate info about this platform than 99.9% of dealership employees.

I just scanned the manual but could not find any information on the break-in service. Texted my SA and told him everyone says he's a liar, lol. I guess the only way I'll ever know for sure is if I do a before and after dyno check...but I'm not THAT interested in getting to the bottom of it. I don't see why it's so hard to believe that there could be a software limiter to keep the car from being pushed too hard for the first 1200 miles. The guy changing the fluids was different than the guy doing the software update, so maybe they don't know what the other is doing. I think it would be pretty easy to do for BMW, so I believed it. Anyway, thanks for all the input, it was not the response I expected when I originally posted it!

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by skim_atx

I just scanned the manual but could not find any information on the break-in service. Texted my SA and told him everyone says he's a liar, lol. I guess the only way I'll ever know for sure is if I do a before and after dyno check...but I'm not THAT interested in getting to the bottom of it. I don't see why it's so hard to believe that there could be a software limiter to keep the car from being pushed too hard for the first 1200 miles. The guy changing the fluids was different than the guy doing the software update, so maybe they don't know what the other is doing. I think it would be pretty easy to do for BMW, so I believed it. Anyway, thanks for all the input, it was not the response I expected when I originally posted it!

There were a few members that did 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs within first few days of getting the car and getting results in line with expectations. That alone should indicate there isn't any restrictions.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by skim_atx

I just got my G80 back from break in service and my advisor told me they removed some "limiters" on the car which keeps it in a safe operating range until 1200 miles. It took several hours of software updates, etc, and he said it should give about 10% more power now. Interesting. Did you all know about that? This is my first M3 and so far, I am impressed.

Trust me, it's not just you, they said the same thing when I did my break in on the M2C. There's literally no difference BTW, it's just a fluid change and service interval reset.

The only car that I can think of that has an actual change off the top of my head is the C8 Vette. When you hit 500 miles the actual instrument cluster graphics change and you have additional RPM to play with.
It's like BMW has their own bizarre urban legends that seem to be echoed by Sales and Service Advisors. The Service Techs probably look at them like

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by skim_atx

I just scanned the manual but could not find any information on the break-in service. Texted my SA and told him everyone says he's a liar, lol. I guess the only way I'll ever know for sure is if I do a before and after dyno check...but I'm not THAT interested in getting to the bottom of it. I don't see why it's so hard to believe that there could be a software limiter to keep the car from being pushed too hard for the first 1200 miles. The guy changing the fluids was different than the guy doing the software update, so maybe they don't know what the other is doing. I think it would be pretty easy to do for BMW, so I believed it. Anyway, thanks for all the input, it was not the response I expected when I originally posted it!

When I got my '18 M3CS I emailed a BMW Technical Engineer at BMWNA. He confirmed that there are no changes related to power or anything like that.

Sure, they could have changed it going forward from there, but if so, it would be widely documented. Remember, they are German. They document everything.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by bri1042

Nope. It's a misconception that never dies. If that's your Service Advisor, I'd seriously consider switching to a new SA...not very encouraging when an SA knows the product that badly.

Is this misconception still around??? This is from the E46 M3 days.

[freshxdough]

Nothing changes. All that's done is the Run In Service indicator is deactivated.

Launch is available from 0 miles.

[KiloCo]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Interesting that you guys mentioned you are not gear heads or M3 enthusiasts. Out of curiosity how did you come across the M3 and decide to buy one? It's a pretty decent car to have found yourself in!

I got stranded at football practice when I was 7 years old and a fella in an Estoril Blue e36 M3 Evo gave me a ride home. I was bitten by the bug hard

barryc365, Never owned a BMW... Heard about( New M3/M4) at work while I was talking about buying a Porsche 992 GT3 for the weekends. It was the new body style of the NEW M4 Comp.( Really like the front end)

[Nkr15]

Lmao I just got my break in service done today and for kicks I asked the advisor what was done to the car and he said I will get 20% more power now after the "software update" they did on the car. I guess the 20% more power comes on when I actually go over 3K rpm

[Chicklet]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Interesting that you guys mentioned you are not gear heads or M3 enthusiasts. Out of curiosity how did you come across the M3 and decide to buy one? It's a pretty decent car to have found yourself in!

I got stranded at football practice when I was 7 years old and a fella in an Estoril Blue e36 M3 Evo gave me a ride home. I was bitten by the bug hard

It was 2001 or 2002, rice out my 98 Honda According 5-speed, full bolt-on, thought I was doing something until I met up with a dark blue E46 M3 at a traffic light. Got gapped by 2 or 3 bus lengths from a dig. Told myself back then, when I'm able to afford a M-car, that will be the only BMWs I buy, fast forward to 2023, 15' F82 and 23' G80 that will be going in for its 1200 mile service on Monday!

[Zamorskii]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

There are zero limits placed on this car straight out of the factory, including launch control being available. The technical documentation from BMW confirms it. There are plenty of videos of people using launch control on their drive home from the dealership after taking delivery. There are plenty of stories and videos of people taking the car to the track the first few days of ownership and not running into any limiters. Absolutely nothing is done to the car at the break-in service other than an oil change and a couple other fluid changes.

Exactly why this time I went for a brand new version that I know will get all proper brake-ins and services.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Absolutely nothing is done to the car at the break-in service other than an oil change and a couple other fluid changes.

Just engine oil and diff. Maybe they'll top off your windshield washer fluid.

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

The only car that I can think of that has an actual change off the top of my head is the C8 Vette. When you hit 500 miles the actual instrument cluster graphics change and you have additional RPM to play with.

My C7 did that, but it wasn't limiting anything, it just changed the graphics so that the "yellow" RPM range started earlier - as if the car was cold for 500 miles.

Originally Posted by Nkr15

Lmao I just got my break in service done today and for kicks I asked the advisor what was done to the car and he said I will get 20% more power now after the "software update" they did on the car.

Dang, I got ripped off, and only got 10% more!

Seriously, after my first G82 was in for service, I asked the shop foreman, and he just smiled and shook his head. "Not to my knowledge," he said.

Speaking of incompetent SAs, my wife took in her Dad's caddy for oil service and asked why she can't get some stations on the XM radio. The SA said "it's not the car, you need to call Sirius".

Of course it's the car, numbnuts! Older cars don't go beyond something like channel 250 on Sirius. BTDT. Plus, of course, that 2018 GM product has technology straight out of the 20th century.

[Juanero]

I learn more from the posters on here than from any BMW SA or sales advisors.

[Afaq62]

I purchased a 2020 F83 from Carvana last month with 3350 miles on it and 21 months of warranty left. Took it to the dealer for service. Turned out the first owner never got the break-in service done. Dealer contacted BMW USA and after some back and forth they officially informed me that the warranty is voided due to a missed bi service. So I know first hand how seriour BMW is to about that breakin service.
Anyhow, I returned the car to Carvana and ordered a new G82 this month. Happy ending I guess

[Afaq62]

BMW technician in this video claims M cars come with a different type of engine oil that must be flushed at break-in service. He vaugly answered the software limiter part but my assumption is they just update any recently released software updates and reset breakin service indicator. But I could be wrong.

https://youtu.be/nTVfypgUivI

[Ninemillion]

Just wanted to chime in. Just picked up my x7 60mi and it had a limiter that said power reduced until 300 miles. It’s definitely doable with Idrive software but they warn you.

[RTC3000]

Originally Posted by BushwoodCC

I just got my G80 back from break in service and my advisor told me they removed some "limiters" on the car which keeps it in a safe operating range until 1200 miles. It took several hours of software updates, etc, and he said it should give about 10% more power now. Interesting. Did you all know about that? This is my first M3 and so far, I am impressed.

I can assure you that this is pure and utter nonsense.

If your car received a software update while in service at the dealership, it was pure co-incidence. Yes, updating the software at the dealership can take a few hours.

[secretariat]

After 1200 miles or before 1200 miles or exactly on 1200 miles makes a world of difference in the unlocking mechanism. The extra 700 horsepower is only unlocked when you get your first service done at exactly 1200 miles, if you get it at 1199.99 miles you lose 29 horsepower. If you wait until 1200.99 then you only gain 13 extra horses. Now don't get me started on the torgues.

[RTC3000]

Originally Posted by secretariat

After 1200 miles or before 1200 miles or exactly on 1200 miles makes a world of difference in the unlocking mechanism. The extra 700 horsepower is only unlocked when you get your first service done at exactly 1200 miles, if you get it at 1199.99 miles you lose 29 horsepower. If you wait until 1200.99 then you only gain 13 extra horses. Now don't get me started on the torgues.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by secretariat

After 1200 miles or before 1200 miles or exactly on 1200 miles makes a world of difference in the unlocking mechanism. The extra 700 horsepower is only unlocked when you get your first service done at exactly 1200 miles, if you get it at 1199.99 miles you lose 29 horsepower. If you wait until 1200.99 then you only gain 13 extra horses. Now don't get me started on the torgues.

And when it hits 88 MPH…..

Only after the break-in service that is.

[Anderson11]

I am amazed the unlocking "extra power" during 1200 mile run in service urban myth still survives.

[skyline408]

Originally Posted by Anderson11

I amazed the unlocking "extra power" during 1200 mile run in service urban myth still survives.

I want to say every new generation of M3/4 brings a lot of new BMW owners to the table.