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The 2.9TT in my Cayenne is a sweet machine. It sings a nice song at 5k rpm and higher, with the pedal in contact with the floormat. |
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I put a JB4 on mine for a little extra oomph, but even stock, I thought it was quick if you put your foot down enough to downshift to gain rpm. Driving around in standard mode (ours has Sport Chrono), it holds gears longer and shofts slower, but it wakes up in the Sport settings.
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Chrono has an over boost feature that so do not remember to use very often. Normally I just put my foot to the floor in standard mode and I think the JB4 adds noticeable power to the 2.9L twin turbo in my Cayenne. The JB4 does not change power based on the mode — it is not a flash tune. It just adds boost on top of whatever boost Porsche specified. Google JB4 and Macan S and you should find more information about the 3.0L single turbo in the Macan S. What I have read from Cayenne owners with that engine is that the JB4 makes a noticeable difference.
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03-30-2024, 10:13 AM | #49 |
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We looked at Macans before getting the Cayenne. IMO the base Macan felt underpowered. I would have gone for an S or higher. I also LOVED the GTS and that would be my first choice except for the fact that as a fat guy the seats were bolstered just a bit too much to make them slightly uncomfortable for long trips.
I would also second having the air suspension/PASM. Honestly one of my biggest issues and probably one of the reasons we will eventually get rid of the Cayenne is the ride quality is not that great. I recently drove a Macan GTS and the ride quality was night and day compared to the Cayenne without air suspension or PASM. I don't really know which one makes the most difference, the air suspension or the PASM because the GTS had both. Also recommend going CPO or leasing (I don't know if they lease well or not) because they drop in value like a tank. Their CPO is unlimited miles which is nice and I believe it's 2 years standard but you can get a 3 year version. When I bought mine it seems the dealer was including the 3rd year in the price. Maintenance is $$$ so I recommend getting an indy shop as it will be waaaaay less than the dealer. I have been quoted up to like $600 by dealers for an oil change. I pay less than $300 (which is still too high IMO). |
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03-30-2024, 04:41 PM | #51 |
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Agree with the comments above.
Air suspension = a must and a game changer Porsche CPO = trustworthy (unlike MB CPO) Big depreciation on Cayennes My $0.02: Macan is a small car. Comfort comes from larger vehicles, when all else is held constant. A steel suspension Macan on a long trip makes me cringe at the idea. |
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"Porsche" SUVs with V6s no less. Ugghhh. Blasphemy. About the only things really Porsche are certain interior and exterior parts. So sad.
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It’s interesting to me that maintenance cost keeps coming up. I never go to the dealer for service unless it’s for warranty work. Independent shops that service European cars charge the same hourly rate for Porsches as they do BMWs and Mercedes. I’ve been very fortunate and not had much of an issue with either any BMW or Porsche I’ve owned. I’ve owned eight Porsches and three BMWs.
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porsche is pretty aggressive with their maintenance intervals (30k plugs) on these new turbos and atop of making it harder to service also
a 30k suv could easily need service, plugs, filters, tires, and all brakes older cayenne gts manual ftw |
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![]() I'm just crusty and believe that companies like Porsche, BMW, etc. were known for their sportscar and sports sedans and then they sold their souls to make SUVs. I'm fully aware that the Germans makes sell mountains of the SUVs in comparison to their passenger and sportscars. It's sad to me, especially seeing a company like Porsche put it's name on an SUV that is largely a Audi/VW under the skin. Sure the motors is often slightly different, but still largely the same as the Audi/VW variants.
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They have been doing it for 20 years and the SUV are their best selling vehicle. It may be that the profit from the SUV supports or subsidizes the car production.
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^Agreed^ Read any sales report from a luxury or exotic company that offers an SUV. The SUV is the highest unit volume product sold after a few years in the market. Cullinan, DBX, Urus, Bentayga, Cayenne, Macan, GLE, GLS, GLC, X3, X5 and on and on.
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In today's world of maximizing profits, many joint companies share parts and higher end models reuse as many lower end brand products as it makes sense. It does not devalue the higher end brand or make it just a "rebranded" product. |
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Pretty sure I've read Porsche was going out of business until they came out with the Cayenne. Anyways if you go to any Porsche dealer around here all they have are SUVs. At least new. It's like 80% new and used Cayennes and Macans, 10% Panameras and Tycans then maybe 1 or 2 used Caymans/Boxsters (if you're lucky) the rest ridiculously priced used 911s and such. |
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Cool story. Based on what?
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