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So it's safe to say CS and GTS models are likely done? Base (for M3/M4) > Competition > CSL?
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07-22-2021, 10:39 AM | #24 |
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Or it's part of the 50th anniversary batch of vehicles, basically a one-off?
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07-22-2021, 10:41 AM | #25 |
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6MT and DCT is not going to happen, too much cost involved to engineer for such a niche product. Going to be 8AT.
Wonder what the future CS hp will be, 525 ish? Interesting that the M4 CSL will with RWD and not AWD, most likely some weight savings.
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CSL>Comp Xdrive>Comp>Base...
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Added a few more details including end of production date, equipment, confirmed automatic only.
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07-22-2021, 11:05 AM | #30 |
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CS variants are expected to be produced, at least for the G80.
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Z06 will be the best bargain out there, so hard to compare it to that. Maybe you could say it's a bargain compared to the GT3 and it will beat the GT4 on the track, but who would drive an automatic GT3 (not PDK)? That said, I'm sure it will still sell. |
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So many comments about stick it's hard to believe people are still stuck there. Was the E46 CSL stick? Was the E92 GTS? Was the F82 GTS? Was the F80/82 CS? And back in those eras manuals were more common and widely available. So making comments here in 2021 about this car and "will it be stick" is pretty clueless. The real issue with this entire platform is the lack of DCT but that has been discussed far too much already. The questions I have are will there be a CS and CSL? If not there goes BMW creating confusion again right when we thought it would be Base-Comp-CS-CSL. The second question for CS and CSL is about weight. Let's hope they shed some.
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Seriously though I expect strong uptake. I think it is unlikely that they put the auto or DCT in this car. Auto doesn't fit with the mission and DCT would require full recertification if I understand it correctly. |
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07-22-2021, 12:16 PM | #41 |
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They should really try to make an aggressive auto transmission then if its only gonna be auto. Would be pretty underwhelming with just the torque converter auto. Hard core trans tuning?? Idk if that will be enough to give it the excitement they are looking to bring with this car at this price point.
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If you watched the drift team video, they have the stock motor at over 1,000hp. Forged crank, forged rods and Mahle pistons from the factory. Dual high pressure fuel pumps. This car is made to make more power.
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I wonder if this is the replacement for the GTS or a replacement for the CS
If it's a replacement for the GTS, I'm disappointed with the power output. I was expecting 540 for the CS (to further differentiate from the ZCP) and 580 for the CSL |
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