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Which was the old CSL before it was a GTS.
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I was not expecting ICE to be an option to any next gen M vehicles. Hope we see these kinda statements from other manufacturers as well. |
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Given the enormous challenges of charging infrastructure and the grid itself hybrids would be a logical first step that could actually be achievable. Especially for anyone taking longer trips.
People do conveniently forgot the environmental impact of EVs. (Mining, production, end of life disposal, the fact it's displacing a gas powered car already on the road etc.) I'm buying one more high performance car and keeping it for my kids. Not sure on which one yet but the upcoming M2, M4, new Z06, ZL1 Camaro, Cayman GTS 4.0 are all on the list of potential cars.
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11-04-2021, 07:53 AM | #28 |
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What's your source for this? Obviously we all know about dealer prices/market adjustments and shortage of production allocations, but much of that is likely due to a low-volume car in its first year (pent-up demand) and, obviously, the broader supply chain issues worldwide. I believe BMW does not break down its sales figures by specific model (only series), so I'm curious whether there is any evidence that this is the best-selling M3/M4?
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However, as a gear head, I wish I had your staunch enthusiasm. Trust me, all my "fun" cars will always be ICE, I am just making peace with the 20 year off future, where everything is quicker than a Tesla Plaid, but drives itself and is connected to the other cars on the road so is only going 65 anyways. I will use these self driving trips to sleep! |
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About vehicle emission standards for exhaust emissions of new vehicles sold in the European Union and EEA member states and the UK: see for example here. For sure we will see cities further restricting access of ICE vehicles (either a ban or expensive access tax of vehicles exceeding set emissions levels). That's also a factor to take into account when buying a new or second hand car. The German companies Porsche and Siemens Energy will start producing "eFuels" in 2022 (hydrogen-based fuel). Also Exxon Mobil is involved in the project. Major benefit: you can pump it into a standard gasoline-powered vehicle without needing to make any adjustments to the engine (see here, here and here).
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It seems you and many others are caught up in the speculation of future products, the marketing and spectacle of what has been released. I'm not saying BMW is ahead, but they're definitely not behind. I'm far more interested in the i4 and what that could do for the future of EV in this segment than the etron GT and EQS which is meant more for the wealthy rather than the masses. |
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Sorry about that but I have seen people here serious about wanting the station wagon. I totally disagree with you on the SUVs though. That’s one of the most popular vehicles in the United States. I suppose you could argue that an SUV is Brady Bunch but you would be in the extreme extreme minority on that one. At least in America.
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Some Über M car rumored to feature approx. 1 megawatt of raw power (1000kW = 1360ps = 1341hp). Quote:
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