01-29-2019, 08:39 AM | #133 |
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I thought about this...kind of thinking maybe I should just buy out my F82 and wait until toward end of the G80/2/3 run to get one. ED of course. Maybe 40th bday gift to myself. Got a few years to wait and see!
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and what logic is it that the more track focused M3s would have more options? shouldn't those be even more stripped down?
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01-29-2019, 10:01 AM | #136 | |
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Sure, we can look at a vehicle like an M4 GTS and note that it lacks certain options, but that car has massive margins already due to the exhorbitant base MSRP. An M4 CS follows a similar strategy. An M4 Pure, on the other hand, is not going to be able to command a higher MSRP than a standard M4 - in fact it may very well be priced slightly lower given the lack of AWD. BMW is therefore going to want buyers to add costly option packages to increase profit on the vehicle. Expect to be able to option it just like you can a standard M4 today. |
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01-29-2019, 10:22 AM | #138 |
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So I did not read anywhere but, I am guessing that the AWD won't be able to be turned off like in the M5?? To make it a RWD car when you want. This seems like it would be the best option for BMW.
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01-29-2019, 10:30 AM | #139 |
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If that's the case I don't think that much weight difference is worth not getting the base or comp models...
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I did not realize that. That seems pretty lame.
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01-29-2019, 11:10 AM | #145 |
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The difference is that a true rwd car would have the simpler transmission with no transfer case, no front differential, no front drive shafts and no x badges. Each of those save substantial weight. Little known fact, but the x badge is heavier than any other badge.
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I agree that the Pure model will quite probably be the lightest one due to the lack of AWD and because the MT will presumably be lighter than whatever automatic transmission the other models use (almost surely the ZF8). I would further agree that this is likely to account for somewhere in the ballpark of 150Lb, yes. |
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Correct. Other than CCB, I'm seeing all options on all versions. |
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Something for everyone
BMW is offering something for everyone. Let’s hope that the market recognizes this and rewards them with sales otherwise the “Purists” will never get another chance to get the car they always moan is not offered.
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This is very disappointing.
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01-29-2019, 02:16 PM | #151 |
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New 911 (992) went up in price/weight/size....
It is not 'only' BMW. BMW at least offers the M2 for people who object to a larger vehicle. If they deliver a lighter pure model, IMO - People are discounting how good this car could be. Lighter weight cars always feels better over time, may not be noticeable on a test drive, but over time it wins out, IMO. I see this G80 as a nimble M5 from days of old. People who compare the M4 to an E46 are missing the mark. The M2 is the comparison for the E46 M3. |
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Then why do you care if the car is in RWD mode or not? At 7/10 and below; it's likely that you would never know the difference.
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I get your meaning but what's reliable nowadays? Honda Civic reliable? Is that the Metric? If that's the case BMWs off the assembly line are unreliable. |
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