[enigma99b]

Anyone seen this? Couple months old.

He predicts BMW will redo it after their sales fail. Because "nobody likes the bever teeth"

[The Choosey begger]

Can we start a petition for BMW to give us regular size grills M3/M4?

[Lee808]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Wow...I really like this design, sporty, modern, elegant and not over the top. The front is easily recognisable as from BMW since somehow it has this throwback trait of a classic BMW grille

Mean AF!! I'll take this!

[juanmad]

This it how it should have been.. what do you think?

[juanmad]

LOL

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by juanmad

This it how it should have been.. what do you think?

Naw! That design is busier and less attractive than the actual G8X front end. Nice render skills though.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Naw! That design is busier and less attractive than the actual G8X front end. Nice render skills though.

This is one of many recent BMWBLOG renders where they envision a "what if" scenario for the G8x...because that's what the internet needs...more inaccurate G8x renders..

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by juanmad

This it how it should have been.. what do you think?

The rear looks like a Lexus, not very original!

[Hasser]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

The problem is they went to far in the direction of form vs function. This will NOT age well. I'm fact I predict this M3 that is referred to as the "ugly one" for eternity.

Hopefully the feedback inspires them to make the next gen be something amazing.

it will be the 996 of the Porsche 911

[Zirenz2006]

Originally Posted by juanmad

This it how it should have been.. what do you think?

glad it doesn't look like that

[kc52ar]

Originally Posted by juanmad

This it how it should have been.. what do you think?

Or something like this and NO hood line!

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by juanmad

This it how it should have been.. what do you think?

I personally think this looks worse .... I can't be the only one.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by kc52ar

Or something like this and NO hood line!

That's awful lol

[SCOTT26]

I asked the question to the marketing divisions responsible for BMW and indeed BMW M regarding the foot traffic who have socially distanced themselves to view THE 4 and M3/M4 about the Grille controversy and if it has maintained with the viewings?

In the case of the 4 there was apprehension but when seen in real life the response has somewhat been favourable.
If you have seen the 4 in real life? Then against official launch pictures you know it definitely does not photograph well. One feature identified of note is especially when looking at the rear where the definition of the body over the wheel arches is not highlighted well.
It makes the body heavier over the rear wheels.

With the twin M's the people who have been lucky to see it (well in Europe) anyway say they relatively like the new appearance. Yes there has been some Alfaisti commentary to its similarities, as one would expect. Testament to Alfa Romeo for making the Guilia Cloverleaf so good to warrant BMW M to benchmark.

But generally overall response has been high and favourable.
And these people would definitely raise flags if there was extremely bad feedback.
Personally from a practicality point of view I preferred M3 over M4 but rule out both for the M3 Touring. Although for the wait I would take an M3 and wait for the Touring.

In both occasions they do point out that the Internet and social media is usually not representative of real life.

[bmwdrive]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

I don't know what else the marketing people at BMW could say. They're not the designers. How could they raise flags at this point if the feedback was bad? BMW can't change the designs at this stage. I'm not sure how they would not be concerned however. Every single review I have read about the 4-series or M3/M4 has mentioned how horrible the grille looks. Marketing is all about controlling messaging but they're not worried? Hmm.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by danf72

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

I don't know what else the marketing people at BMW could say. They're not the designers. How could they raise flags at this point if the feedback was bad? BMW can't change the designs at this stage. I'm not sure how they would not be concerned however. Every single review I have read about the 4-series or M3/M4 has mentioned how horrible the grille looks. Marketing is all about controlling messaging but they're not worried? Hmm.

I think it just goes to show how far the general market for these vehicles has diverged from the small but vocal shoebox of hardcore traditionalists


The x7 constantly gets killed by some for the grill yet has been a hugely successful launch. The M8 which is constantly held up as "the right way to do design" had 2/3 models canceled (coupe, vert) for 2021 due to sales flop....

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I asked the question to the marketing divisions responsible for BMW and indeed BMW M regarding the foot traffic who have socially distanced themselves to view THE 4 and M3/M4 about the Grille controversy and if it has maintained with the viewings?

In the case of the 4 there was apprehension but when seen in real life the response has somewhat been favourable.
If you have seen the 4 in real life? Then against official launch pictures you know it definitely does not photograph well. One feature identified of note is especially when looking at the rear where the definition of the body over the wheel arches is not highlighted well.
It makes the body heavier over the rear wheels.

With the twin M's the people who have been lucky to see it (well in Europe) anyway say they relatively like the new appearance. Yes there has been some Alfaisti commentary to its similarities, as one would expect. Testament to Alfa Romeo for making the Guilia Cloverleaf so good to warrant BMW M to benchmark.

But generally overall response has been high and favourable.
And these people would definitely raise flags if there was extremely bad feedback.
Personally from a practicality point of view I preferred M3 over M4 but rule out both for the M3 Touring. Although for the wait I would take an M3 and wait for the Touring.

In both occasions they do point out that the Internet and social media is usually not representative of real life.

That is very true, but an enthusiast site like Bimmerpost is not Twitter/IG/FB, it is an established enthusiast board that is more trustworthy than other outlets on the internet, IMO.

The interesting thing for me has been the feedback from people going to specific M reveals and posting about not liking it, while others do like it, it seems very mixed. That makes me a little apprehensive about how it will look.

Looking forward to the reveal.

[M2Cmtl]

I think it’s clear this car is no longer aimed at enthusiasts...

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

I think it’s clear this car is no longer aimed at enthusiasts...

Agreed. In addition the next M3/M4 may be a sales flop.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by Hegge

Agreed. In addition the next M3/M4 may be a sales flop.

Not to worry! I can't count on one hand the number of forums members who are gonna get one!

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by enigma99b

Anyone seen this? Couple months old.

He predicts BMW will redo it after their sales fail. Because "nobody likes the bever teeth"

Beever Teef is the new Bangle Butt.

[Kyler13]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

I think it’s clear this car is no longer aimed at enthusiasts...

If they get two sales from regular folk for every lost enthusiast, then it will have been worth it. Guess that works for the 4, but I would expect your enthusiasts are the ones more likely to drop 80+ large on the M cars.

I wonder about a marketing department that is OK with a car that doesn't photograph well but presents better in person. That puts a hell of a burden on someone to get people into the dealerships or the cars out in front of the public. Basically eliminating web, print, and TV right out of the gate? Solid business strategy.