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That's a ton of work, very interesting read, thank you.
I would be more interested in suspension and tires because the first thing I noticed on the G82 was the amazing way it cornered, took bumps, and smoothed out road imperfections. The suspension is both supple and corners flat. It's by far the most improved thing on the G series.
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appreciate the work. well done !
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Damn! People get all excited when there are comparison videos of un comparable cars, like a two door manual whatever vs an all wheel drive tuned suv vs a stock Prius. And finally someone makes a video with the same car, different model years and you're annoyed?
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Hey man, I think you're in the wrong section of the forum. There is an F87 and F80 section that seems more aligned with your comments.
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Great writeup, OP!
Reminds me of engineering school, love seeing real numbers used to quantify differences other than the standard butt dyno "feels better/worse" approach. I agree with others that it may have helped your analysis to take a larger sample size of times for each vehicle and average them out before proceeding, but otherwise great job! Ultimately what made me place my order for a '22 comp xdrive over the '21 6MT that I test drove was the clutch feel. I don't have an F82 but my aftermarket clutch + cdv delete in my 435 felt night and day better to me than the G82 that I tested. I was really sad after testing it after being dead set on walking out that day with it. The clutch feel really changed my mind to order my very first automatic vehicle. It sure would be cool to see if they release a future version with a beefed up clutch and extra power as a final 6MT hurrah. If so then I'd definitely revisit trying to get behind the wheel of one |
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The original post was a fascinating read. I recalled that randy probst (far better driver than I will ever be) claimed to go faster around a track in the manual than the automatic. G8x I'm talking.
Not to stir the pot, but check this out: If link doesn't work, google randy probst g80 Bmw and it comes up. I recalled correctly. Given the detailed data above and a working assumption that all else equal (grip, features, etc), how does one explain randy beating the automatic with the manual? I confess I traded my 15 m4 manual for a 21 m3 competition basically because of the torque difference and the practical reality that, on a track, really all you do is shift from 3rd to 4th and back. 5th you are going wicked fast and 2nd is a serious turn. I will work more on my braking and "line" and worry less about downshifting now. After I break the new car in, of course. So, I'm a bit curious the science of what is afoot with this video. Only thing I can figure is randy is in "d3" where he should be in "s3" and if he did that, the competition should beat the manual? More data equals more confusion! |
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^^ this. Can't believe Pobst did that instead of shifting manually. This video doesn't prove much one way or the other.
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