09-23-2020, 06:18 AM | #1 |
New Member
11
Rep 14
Posts |
The M3 is only 0.2 seconds quicker to 60 mi/h than the M340i?
Sorry not trying to start anything. I’m just eyeing on an M3 after finding my G20 330xi lacking punch. 0 - 60 mph (0 to 100 km/h) isn’t everything in a car, but I kind of expected a bit more from M3 (like, sub 4 seconds). What do you all think?
|
09-23-2020, 06:32 AM | #2 |
Lieutenant
435
Rep 435
Posts |
i believe BMW is under estimating 0-60 times.
X3M is evidence
__________________
spun out '
|
Appreciate
1
evanescent031033.00 |
09-23-2020, 06:34 AM | #3 |
Rainbow Racer
1008
Rep 2,539
Posts |
0-60 is a function of grip, look at overall quarter mile MPH, that will tell you the full power range of available power throughout the powerband.
__________________
-Loe P.-
Prior Car:'14 Audi S5 3.0t DSG [ APR ECU/TCU | Pullies + basic bolt-on mods | 10.861@127.90mph ] Current Car: F82 M4cs | TT-RS | On Order: i4 M50 |
Appreciate
5
|
09-23-2020, 07:50 AM | #4 |
Colonel
3689
Rep 2,956
Posts |
I think you should wait for the magazines to get a hold of production models and perform their own testing. I have yet to see a BMW not outperform their claimed performance times which are highly conservative much like their claimed HP/TQ numbers.
|
Appreciate
1
Avaley732.00 |
09-23-2020, 07:54 AM | #5 |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
|
Appreciate
3
|
09-23-2020, 08:08 AM | #6 |
Second Lieutenant
87
Rep 225
Posts |
I don’t get it. 4.1-4.2 for standard M3 and 3.8 for Comp. Those are the same numbers as the previous generation M3. What gives? Increased HP, new car must be significantly heavier?
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 08:14 AM | #7 |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
|
Appreciate
1
Whyte_Diamonds260.50 |
09-23-2020, 08:14 AM | #8 |
Captain
612
Rep 794
Posts |
|
Appreciate
1
evanescent031033.00 |
09-23-2020, 08:28 AM | #9 |
Captain
194
Rep 850
Posts |
Many are giving the reason or excuse that BMW is underquoting G80 M3's 0 to 60. As at present, then compare BMW's official quote 0 to 60 for M3 vs M340i, m340I Xdrive ... what are they?
__________________
2013 F10 M5 FG, 12.7 E92 M3 ZCP sold
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 08:39 AM | #10 |
Brigadier General
3072
Rep 4,393
Posts
Drives: 2022 F97 X3M Comp LCI
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NJ/NY
|
0-60 is a function of grip.
I'm more interested in 1/4 mile trap speeds.
__________________
BMW MY22 F97 X3MC LCI - CURRENT BUILD THREAD| Instagram: @danniexi
BMW MY16 F80 M3 - GONE BMW MY08 E92 335XI - GONE BMW MY06 E46 325XI - GONE |
Appreciate
1
Transfer5254.00 |
09-23-2020, 08:53 AM | #11 |
Lieutenant Colonel
640
Rep 1,716
Posts |
Ya about 500lbs heavier, no idea wtf is goin on over there nowadays
__________________
Formerly addicted to e46fanatics
Formerly addicted to e90post |
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 09:01 AM | #12 |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
|
Appreciate
3
|
09-23-2020, 09:02 AM | #13 | |
Captain
194
Rep 850
Posts |
Quote:
And yes, grip is an impt factor, and not sole determinant.
__________________
2013 F10 M5 FG, 12.7 E92 M3 ZCP sold
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 09:03 AM | #14 |
Lieutenant Colonel
640
Rep 1,716
Posts |
Oh, I saw some numbers in another thread that totaled that but maybe they were hypothesizing at the awd version
__________________
Formerly addicted to e46fanatics
Formerly addicted to e90post |
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 09:04 AM | #15 |
Colonel
3689
Rep 2,956
Posts |
It would defy physics for the M3/M4 with auto and AWD to be slower in a straight line than the X3M Comp using the same engine and transmission given the X3M Comp is considerably heavier and less aerodynamic. I would expect sub-3.5 sec 0-60 and 11.5 sec @ 120 mph 1/4 mile from a ZF8 equipped AWD M3/M4 based on the numbers C&D got out of the X3M Comp. I imagine manual transmission RWD models will not likely be quite as quick in a straight line.
|
Appreciate
1
EXE462100.00 |
09-23-2020, 09:17 AM | #16 | |
Colonel
2191
Rep 2,557
Posts |
Quote:
And the base M3 still has the same torque rating as the previous gen which matters a lot more off the line Add that onto the 200lb gain and you end up balancing out the increased horsepower for the base models FYI for whomever was looking for it bmw rates the M340 rwd at 4.4 0-60 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 09:26 AM | #17 |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 01:19 PM | #18 | |
Barge driver
8656
Rep 12,425
Posts |
Quote:
So you have a traction limited drive train and no meaningful increase in the power to weight ratio, so the numbers will look the same/similar. You need AWD to get real improvements in the 0-60 when cars are this powerful.
__________________
730d/Z4C
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 01:26 PM | #19 | ||
Lieutenant General
18710
Rep 14,115
Posts
Drives: G82 M4C X-Drive
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
2022 G82///M4 Competition X-Drive - KW-HAS, EBC Bluestuff, Millway Race Camber Plates, Cup2 Connect*, PSI High Flow Midpipe, Lightweight Front Lip, M Perf Flow Through Wing Previous • 2018 F80 ///M3 CS • 2016 F80 ///M3 IG: Raging_G82 |
||
09-23-2020, 03:07 PM | #20 |
Captain
323
Rep 647
Posts |
__________________
Current: 2023 G80 ///M3 Competition xDrive in Atlantis / 2021 X3 M40
Previous: 2020 M340 / 2017 X3 / 2016 340xi / 2013 335xi / 2011 X3 / 2010 328i / 2007 328i / 2004 325i |
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 03:10 PM | #21 | |
Captain
323
Rep 647
Posts |
Quote:
Speaking of, honest question I can't seem to find an answer to. I know the AWD M3 will be limited to Competition only. Regarding price, all I can seem to find is the $71,800 starting price which I imagine is for Core model. Has anybody floated what they think the starting price for M3 Competition will be? Figure +$3,000 on top of that for xDrive.
__________________
Current: 2023 G80 ///M3 Competition xDrive in Atlantis / 2021 X3 M40
Previous: 2020 M340 / 2017 X3 / 2016 340xi / 2013 335xi / 2011 X3 / 2010 328i / 2007 328i / 2004 325i |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2020, 04:39 PM | #22 | |
Barge driver
8656
Rep 12,425
Posts |
Quote:
But they are at the edge of how quickly a front engined rear wheel drive car can accelerate to 60 hence not much of a move forward if at all.
__________________
730d/Z4C
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|