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      11-26-2020, 08:18 AM   #1
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The M3/M4 are priced too high compared to an M2

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This car is totally not worth 90k average.
$90k for this car is insane. For $25k less you can buy an M2C that both looks and drives better. Incredible value relative to the M3.

Stripper is the only way I'd go on this car. Otherwise I just don't see the value and would just go M2. Though I understand some folks require 4 doors and don't have that option.
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I don't understand why folks will say things like, "this car isn't worth $90k" or that you can get the M2C for significantly cheaper. You should ask yourself, how is the competition priced? If you're saying the G80/G82 isn't worth $90k (which is pretty much loaded btw), then you should also say the C63/RS5 aren't worth their fully optioned pricing either. Comparing it to an M2C just makes no sense, they're different class of cars.

The proper way to look at this would be, this is a $70k car, to which you could add $20k+ worth of options should you choose to. (Maybe you guys haven't heard of Porsche where you can practically double the price of the car in endless options).

Would it be better if BMW simply didn't offer all of the options that drive the price up to $90k?
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I don't understand why folks will say things like, "this car isn't worth $90k" or that you can get the M2C for significantly cheaper. You should ask yourself, how is the competition priced? If you're saying the G80/G82 isn't worth $90k (which is pretty much loaded btw), then you should also say the C63/RS5 aren't worth their fully optioned pricing either. Comparing it to an M2C just makes no sense, they're different class of cars.

The proper way to look at this would be, this is a $70k car, to which you could add $20k+ worth of options should you choose to. (Maybe you guys haven't heard of Porsche where you can practically double the price of the car in endless options).

Would it be better if BMW simply didn't offer all of the options that drive the price up to $90k?
Some people just live to complain.
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I don't understand why folks will say things like, "this car isn't worth $90k" or that you can get the M2C for significantly cheaper. You should ask yourself, how is the competition priced? If you're saying the G80/G82 isn't worth $90k (which is pretty much loaded btw), then you should also say the C63/RS5 aren't worth their fully optioned pricing either. Comparing it to an M2C just makes no sense, they're different class of cars.

The proper way to look at this would be, this is a $70k car, to which you could add $20k+ worth of options should you choose to. (Maybe you guys haven't heard of Porsche where you can practically double the price of the car in endless options).

Would it be better if BMW simply didn't offer all of the options that drive the price up to $90k?
It's perception of value. All the extras that drive the price of the car up to 90k are of little or no value to me. I'm after a car that's fun to drive, and not interested in options and specs that do not contribute to what I'm after.

Others see it differently and find value in those extras. Neither perception is wrong. That's why both the M2 and M3 exist. At the end of the day we'll both be happy with our choices and that's all that matters
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I don't understand why folks will say things like, "this car isn't worth $90k" or that you can get the M2C for significantly cheaper. You should ask yourself, how is the competition priced? If you're saying the G80/G82 isn't worth $90k (which is pretty much loaded btw), then you should also say the C63/RS5 aren't worth their fully optioned pricing either. Comparing it to an M2C just makes no sense, they're different class of cars.

The proper way to look at this would be, this is a $70k car, to which you could add $20k+ worth of options should you choose to. (Maybe you guys haven't heard of Porsche where you can practically double the price of the car in endless options).

Would it be better if BMW simply didn't offer all of the options that drive the price up to $90k?
Some people just live to complain.

I mean, you still get the same played out and unfunny grille comments in almost every thread.
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$90k for this car is insane. For $25k less you can buy an M2C that both looks and drives better. Incredible value relative to the M3.

Stripper is the only way I'd go on this car. Otherwise I just don't see the value and would just go M2. Though I understand some folks require 4 doors and don't have that option.
How do you make the determination that the M2 Drives better?
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It's perception of value. All the extras that drive the price of the car up to 90k are of little or no value to me. I'm after a car that's fun to drive, and not interested in options and specs that do not contribute to what I'm after.

Others see it differently and find value in those extras. Neither perception is wrong. That's why both the M2 and M3 exist. At the end of the day we'll both be happy with our choices and that's all that matters
You can order the M3/M4 with little to no options and get it for 70k you know?
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I don't understand why folks will say things like, "this car isn't worth $90k" or that you can get the M2C for significantly cheaper. You should ask yourself, how is the competition priced? If you're saying the G80/G82 isn't worth $90k (which is pretty much loaded btw), then you should also say the C63/RS5 aren't worth their fully optioned pricing either. Comparing it to an M2C just makes no sense, they're different class of cars.

The proper way to look at this would be, this is a $70k car, to which you could add $20k+ worth of options should you choose to. (Maybe you guys haven't heard of Porsche where you can practically double the price of the car in endless options).

Would it be better if BMW simply didn't offer all of the options that drive the price up to $90k?

Ha then they’ll just complain about the lack of options from BMW. In all honesty, there’s a lot of included options which was surprising.
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How do you make the determination that the M2 Drives better?
Do you expect a 4000 lb car to drive better?

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/11/18/b...-drive-review/
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Do you expect a 4000 lb car to drive better?

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/11/18/b...-drive-review/
That's a CS for over 100K $

Cool story bro...

Btw...I can just lol at people paying 100k for a 2 Series...
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https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/11/18/b...-drive-review/
I haven’t heard anyone complain about how the M8 drives
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That's a CS for over 100K $

Cool story bro...

Btw...I can just lol at people paying 100k for a 2 Series...
Pretty Odd considering every time someone adds a build of an M3 that gets near the 100k mark they scream Porsche but then justify this amount on the M2z
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That's a CS for over 100K $

Cool story bro...

Btw...I can just lol at people paying 100k for a 2 Series...
Read, digest and understand the articles linked above and below

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/11/02/b...cs-test-drive/ ... the M2 Comp for a 2 door car.
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Read, digest and understand the articles linked above and below

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/11/02/b...cs-test-drive/ ... the M2 Comp for a 2 door car.
I can't read so please explain why you are posting a link about a M2 CS test drive? An M2CS is over 100K fully loaded.

The S58 engine in the G8x will set records again.

Let's wait for the G8x CS and compare than.

The M2CS is the best available M2 and you compare it to a stock G8x...
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$90k for this car is insane. For $25k less you can buy an M2C that both looks and drives better. Incredible value relative to the M3.

Stripper is the only way I'd go on this car. Otherwise I just don't see the value and would just go M2. Though I understand some folks require 4 doors and don't have that option.
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How do you make the determination that the M2 Drives better?
Understand first that my post was in relation to the above before you got flustered over what you didn't read and/or understand.

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I can't read so please explain why you are posting a link about a M2 CS test drive? An M2CS is over 100K fully loaded.

The S58 engine in the G8x will set records again.

Let's wait for the G8x CS and compare than.

The M2CS is the best available M2 and you compare it to a stock G8x...
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Understand first that my post was in relation to the above before you got flustered over what you didn't read and/or understand.
Still no idea what you trying to say...

An M2CS should be compared to an M4CS.

So let's wait if we ever gonna have an G8x CS and go from there?
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I don't understand why folks will say things like, "this car isn't worth $90k" or that you can get the M2C for significantly cheaper. You should ask yourself, how is the competition priced? If you're saying the G80/G82 isn't worth $90k (which is pretty much loaded btw), then you should also say the C63/RS5 aren't worth their fully optioned pricing either. Comparing it to an M2C just makes no sense, they're different class of cars.

The proper way to look at this would be, this is a $70k car, to which you could add $20k+ worth of options should you choose to. (Maybe you guys haven't heard of Porsche where you can practically double the price of the car in endless options).

Would it be better if BMW simply didn't offer all of the options that drive the price up to $90k?
How is an M2 in a different class?
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How is an M2 in a different class?
How is it not?
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How is an M2 in a different class?
How is it not?
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Coming from a few M3's and then going to an M2c, regardless of what the market says, if you're comparing the M3/M4 to the M2c, the M2c is hands down the better buy for what you get. I never felt that going to the M2c made me miss anything I had in my previous M3's and that being said, I agree that the M3/M4 are overpriced vs what you can get with the M2c package.
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