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compare to the dahler
https://www.daehler-tuning.com/produ...mpetition-g82/
This one gets you ~100HP, but is 4x the price. Dinan is def more bang for the buck. Wonder if dahler will adjust the price a bit. Last edited by ibmc; 06-18-2022 at 07:59 PM.. Reason: spelling |
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Nice to see another product released!
Can you post what the new boost targets versus stock for both base and comp? Do you still have Dinan shops affiliated with BMW dealers in Canada? (I'm near Oakville Ontario and Budds BMW) Andy ETA on Flash tuning? Thanks!
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I’m curious to why the base model would produce less power than the Comp with this mod. Aren’t they essentially the same exact motor? Or is it due to the 6MT not being able to handle as much power?
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What are the gains with downpipes and intake? Does the tune take advantage of these mods? Or, is there a specific map for these mods?
Also, why does the base map reads X3M? The base/manual cars power seems incorrect? |
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Actually, it is not a clone. Clone is when someone took the original product and have it copied or cloned.
This Dinan X is what they called private label. So, Dinan management got together with RaceChip management and say, "Hey, can I purchase your product, change the appearance a bit, and put my brand on it". It is like Costco do to many of their Kirkland's product. While the software and mapping, it may and may not be the same. Only they know. And guess what, Dinan is not the only one and not the first. Few company been using RaceChip product for a while. Quote:
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And it has been quite sometime that they are still using that old design 8-bit processor chipset with simple off the shelves ATX computer parts, while all new cars are sampling the data much faster. Most guys that I've talked to confirmed that they do feel jerk and rough power delivery.
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Carbahn's warranty is for the duration of the factory warranty, whereas RaceChip's if for two years from purchase (not installation) or 48k miles. |
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Steve Dinan suggests down pipe only add about 11HP and he doesn't recommend doing it.
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On warranty coverage …
Ten years ago I bought a six month old 2012 535i. It was a heavy and not very well handling car so I added M5 wheels and my BMW dealer got me some AC Schnizter springs which helped a bit. But power was still lacking so my BMW dealer offered to install the just released Dinan piggyback. The BMW dealer was also a Dinan dealer. In the following year I ended up with multiple reduced power events and codes were thrown. Long story short after a while the dealers mechanics discovered that the engine had scored rod bearings. BMW denied warranty because I had Dinan. And Dinan denied warranty because scored bearings was a common issue with N55 motors. BMW dealer said to replace the motor. But the cost was not making sense for what the car was worth. I’m not saying the piggyback caused it. For what I know the original owner may have never changed the oil. Lessons learned: only buying new then I know for sure the oil is good. And take the warranty from Dinan with a grain of salt. |
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Lots of catching up...
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Now if it was a a thousand dollar product or more, like some of the other options out there, then it would have been more practical to offer such a program to offset the sting of the much higher initial buy in. Quote:
For Dinan, as of ~2 years ago the factory matching warranty as it applies to engine tuning is a feature of the Dinan+ flash tunes only. Quote:
Inline tuners are not for everyone though so its totally your decision what you feel most comfortable with. A flash tune is always going to be the preferred solution as you have more control which, when done right, means it can offer additional safety preotections and power. However not everyone may be comfortable with flashing (for any number of reasons) either. Quote:
So its on multiple pages of the thread... "Don't think we make any great effort to hide where the physical hardware components comes from. From a cost perspective it simply makes more sense then continuing to go down the path of our own internally developed version of hardware (DINANTRONICS Elite). Lots of great things they were capable of but frankly they were just incredibly expensive to produce which hampered them in many ways. As far as X goes though -- the hardware may be the same/similar to other entities but the software/calibration/tune is unique to Dinan. Ultimately its another option in the marketplace at a price point we think makes it a valid option for consideration." Quote:
Budds' is still a Dinan dealer. Would want to talk to Stephen in parts if interested. No ETA on S58 flash tuning unless you have an 20MY X3M then the S58 tune is available for it. Encryption continues to be worked on but a breakthrough could occur tomorrow or a months from now. That's really anyones guess. Quote:
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Guess it's time to change that screen name of yours.
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Still engineer performance parts. The vast majority of everything we offer is developed wholly in house. Just are utilizing additional delivery vehicles where appropriate to be more cost effective in an ever expanding and competitive marketspace. Just because the hardware is similar does not mean the tuning strategies employed / mapping in general on the board, are the same. They are not. No different then "old Dinan" using off the shelf Koni (or JRZ or Bilstein) shocks and struts but tweaking the internal valving a bit to be more "Dinan" oriented and selling them as a new SKU as just one example. Taking advantage of a proven entitity and their economies of scale in manufacturing for better pricing to serve a wider market is just business.
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That said some of your intakes I've seen released are impressive so kudos on that front. |
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