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      12-13-2019, 10:04 PM   #133
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The F82 M4 was such a prefect car, they really going to mess it up for the next generation and probably beyond..

That's just tragic.. #Sad
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Someone photoshopped AutoBild's inaccurate M4 render to make it more accurate.
This is the new G8x. Going to take some time for me to get used to, never had to get used to any of the other M3 designs because those just worked...
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Someone photoshopped AutoBild's inaccurate M4 render to make it more accurate.
This is the new G8x. Going to take some time for me to get used to, never had to get used to any of the other M3 designs because those just worked...
I wasn't a huge fan of the F8x when it was first revealed, Austin Yellow didn't help that either. It wasn't as polarizing as this design but it did take time for me to get used to it. I made it a point to reserve full judgement until I was able to see the car in person and view it at different angles. I'm taking the same approach here.
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Electronic parking brake... and BMW being cheap as f****. They could have done a two caliper setup like other manufacturers of performance cars.
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The F82 M4 was such a prefect car, they really going to mess it up for the next generation and probably beyond..

That's just tragic.. #Sad
Poochie is right 1000 percent. The next M4 looks like a bust and a boat. The ugly grille, longer car length, more weight, AWD, no DCT, possibly turbo lag and weak transmission like the X3M and X4M. Added to the fact that the boat of a coupe will be released in 2021 in a world dominated by SUVs and Crossovers, there are way too many question marks as it does not look good at all.

Plus special M4 models will be overpriced and will be living on dealer lots. With the M2 and M8 yacht, I question the need for the M4 boat.
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      12-14-2019, 05:40 PM   #139
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Someone photoshopped AutoBild's inaccurate M4 render to make it more accurate.
I think this actually looks good and I am starting to get used to that bigger grill.
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I didn't read diligently but how does the size and weight compare to F82? Is it getting slightly larger or starting the same?
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Poochie is right 1000 percent. The next M4 looks like a bust and a boat. The ugly grille, longer car length, more weight, AWD, no DCT, possibly turbo lag and weak transmission like the X3M and X4M. Added to the fact that the boat of a coupe will be released in 2021 in a world dominated by SUVs and Crossovers, there are way too many question marks as it does not look good at all.

Plus special M4 models will be overpriced and will be living on dealer lots. With the M2 and M8 yacht, I question the need for the M4 boat.
Oh damn it is longer? Poopoo.

I think e92m3 with an s55 swap would be the ultimate haha. Smaller with shit ton more power
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      12-15-2019, 05:29 AM   #143
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My biggest disappointment i think is the size , is it just me? Or it seems bigger than the previous M4 ? As for their design language , its known that it wont look like any previous BMW/M car anyway . Surely the grills will live up too us , by the years everyone will get used to them.
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      12-15-2019, 08:41 AM   #144
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My biggest disappointment i think is the size , is it just me? Or it seems bigger than the previous M4 ? As for their design language , its known that it wont look like any previous BMW/M car anyway . Surely the grills will live up too us , by the years everyone will get used to them.
It did grew a few inches, I'm not sure of the exact specs but I believe the camouflage also makes it appear larger.

I don't think people will get use this one; once the novelty of it being the new M4 on the block wears off, it's exaggerated, cartoonish facial features will begin to show, as the model ages.

I never really followed the F82 when it came out like I'm doing with this generation but even if you knew nothing about it, when you managed to see one in person, it really caught your attention and left you in awe with its sleek appearance.

I just don't see this vehicle having this same instance appeal. More like an acquired taste.

This car looks like it's trying too hard to stand out and they just overkilled the design. I would of really liked to be a fly on wall, in the board-room meeting, the day the designers green-lit this monstrosity. Let's take our signature grille and turn it up to 11, Ja?
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My biggest disappointment i think is the size , is it just me? Or it seems bigger than the previous M4 ? As for their design language , its known that it wont look like any previous BMW/M car anyway . Surely the grills will live up too us , by the years everyone will get used to them.
It did grew a few inches, I'm not sure of the exact specs but I believe the camouflage also makes it appear larger.

I don't think people will get use this one; once the novelty of it being the new M4 on the block wears off, it's exaggerated, cartoonish facial features will begin to show, as the model ages.

I never really followed the F82 when it came out like I'm doing with this generation but even if you knew nothing about it, when you managed to see one in person, it really caught your attention and left you in awe with its sleek appearance.

I just don't see this vehicle having this same instance appeal. More like an acquired taste.

This car looks it's trying too hard to stand out and they just overkilled the design. I would of really liked to be a fly on wall, in the board-room meeting, the day the designers green-lit this monstrosity. Let's take our signature grille and turn it up to 11, Ja?
Only time will tell poochie , it depends on many factors ... 1 year after the release will tell a lot :
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I didn't read diligently but how does the size and weight compare to F82? Is it getting slightly larger or starting the same?
Nobody here knows except maybe SCOTT26 and a few insiders. What you're reading are statements made by members who haven't a clue, and who act like the cars produced by the competition are both lighter and smaller. We don't have any official specs, so it's funny to read definitive comments about track, length, weight, etc.
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      12-15-2019, 10:02 PM   #147
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I know some cars look off in pictures and then look pleasing in real life, but I don't think that's the case for this car honestly. Just look at that render that is apparently so close to the real deal.

I looked at it real hard. It does not look like a BMW FFS. It looks like a replica of what a 3rd tier car company thinks an M car is. I don't see any strong lines, I see no character in it. When you look at an F8x car, if you like it or not, you cannot deny that it is a purposeful car and it is most definitely a BMW! It has some poise, it has the right amount of presence without being flashy and you know its different. Even for people who cant chew gum and walk at the same time, they will see the car on the street and know something is up. It grabs attention the right way.

I know this is beaten to death but damn! This new batch of BMWs are being designed by either the PR/Marketing teams or ill informed second rate car designers with zero regard for BMW's history.
I know BMW is trying to grab more market share, but they are going about it the wrong way. They are not achieving that balance of what it was and what it will be. They need focus!
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Nobody here knows except maybe SCOTT26 and a few insiders. What you're reading are statements made by members who haven't a clue, and who act like the cars produced by the competition are both lighter and smaller. We don't have any official specs, so it's funny to read definitive comments about track, length, weight, etc.
Based on the fact that the G80 is based on the G20 which grew in size (and that's the current trend), not to mention the G80 mule looks bigger than an F80, it's safe to assume it will have larger dimensions than the F80.
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Based on the fact that the G80 is based on the G20 which grew in size (and that's the current trend), not to mention the G80 mule looks bigger than an F80, it's safe to assume it will have larger dimensions than the F80.
I'm just pointing out that none of us know any of the specs, so let's stay away from definitive statements. From E92 to F8X, the car lost weight. Why can't that be the same case for the G8X? Why must everything be negative prose?

P.S. The F30 and G20 are very close in overall width and height. So close that the difference is negligible. The G20 is a couple inches longer, but even that isn't really something that the eye registers.
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I'm just pointing out that none of us know any of the specs, so let's stay away from definitive statements. From E92 to F8X, the car lost weight. Why can't that be the same case for the G8X? Why must everything be negative prose?

P.S. The F30 and G20 are very close in overall width and height. So close that the difference is negligible. The G20 is a couple inches longer, but even that isn't really something that the eye registers.
Fair enough, I'll keep my assumptions to myself from here on out until the official specs are released.

BTW, I'm not even shit talking here but the G20 M340i feels like a boat compared to the F30 335i.

I'm not sure what voodoo magic is going on with it because everyone that drove mines confirmed it felt larger to command.

That I'm 100% sure of and based on the cumulative information available, I was making a safe assumption that the G80/82 will be a larger vehicle. But once again, we'll all just spitballing here based on the information at hand.
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Fair enough, I'll keep my assumptions to myself from here on out until the official specs are out.

BTW, I'm not even shit talking here but the G20 M340i feels like a boat compared to the F30 335i.

I'm not sure what voodoo magic is going on with it because everyone that drove mines confirmed it felt larger to command.

That I'm 100% sure of and based on the cumulative information available, I was making a safe assumption that the G80/82 will be larger vehicle. But once again, we'll all just spitballing here based on the information at hand.
The G-Series feels larger than it is due to the way it is designed. Conversely, the F8X feels smaller than it is due to its design.
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I'm just pointing out that none of us know any of the specs, so let's stay away from definitive statements. From E92 to F8X, the car lost weight. Why can't that be the same case for the G8X? Why must everything be negative prose?

P.S. The F30 and G20 are very close in overall width and height. So close that the difference is negligible. The G20 is a couple inches longer, but even that isn't really something that the eye registers.
Well, the grills are 3x larger then previous versions.

That alone has to add about 200 lbs.

Beaver teeth/pig noses aren't light.
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Well, the grills are 3x larger then previous versions.

That alone has to add about 200 lbs.

Beaver teeth/pig noses aren't light.
Maybe they are made of new lightweight unobtainium!!!
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