[barryc365]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

There's no great urgency IMO.

I don't think used vehicle prices will go down. I think we just went though an inflationary moment where everything got more expensive in a rapid fashion, which means the dollar really went down in value. Next we will see manufacturers raise new car prices marginally faster year-over-year than before and soon inflated new car prices will make the inflated used car prices seem reasonable. Same thing happened to boats after 2008.

I think you could be spot on. Same has happened with Luxury watches. I bought a high end watch last year at MSRP and could flip it for 100% gain 1 year later if I wanted. It's madness. The watch makers can see what prices their watches are demanding so they in turn are now jacking up the MSRP's

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Dolemite79

I got quoted the following on a lease through a broker

MSRP 77095

36 month lease 12k miles

56% residual

0.00093 MF

All in month payment including taxes is $1,128

My drive off payment is $2,928

I have a 2019 z06 with a manual with just over 10k miles on it which i financed and could sell for a hefty profit but im having a hard time stomaching paying over 1100 a month for a lease.

I'm considering waiting 6-12 months but who knows if it will get any better, the downside is ill be putting way more miles on the z06.

Should i go for the deal or wait? I dont need a new car now but im gonna need a back seat in the next year or so.

i FOOLISHLY didn't check my lease payout on my 17 Z06 lease 2 months ago and i literally missed out on probably minimum 10k profit on that dam car. I miss my Z. She was fun. I see you're in lauderdale, guess you haven't had luck around here either..

[Dolemite79]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

i FOOLISHLY didn't check my lease payout on my 17 Z06 lease 2 months ago and i literally missed out on probably minimum 10k profit on that dam car. I miss my Z. She was fun. I see you're in lauderdale, guess you haven't had luck around here either..

I bought mine from bomnin after driving a 17 grand sport for two years. After driving nothing but German cars I was super impressed and love my z06 and I'll be sad to see it go.
I'm glad I decided to buy and not lease,should be able to make money off it.


Haha Yea no luck down here and tbh after buying cars from both Lauderdale and Vista I'd never do business with either of them ever again anyways.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Dolemite79

I bought mine from bomnin after driving a 17 grand sport for two years. After driving nothing but German cars I was super impressed and love my z06 and I'll be sad to see it go.
I'm glad I decided to buy and not lease,should be able to make money off it.


Haha Yea no luck down here and tbh after buying cars from both Lauderdale and Vista I'd never do business with either of them ever again anyways.

I leased the Z, probably had to go out of state to find it ofc, because i dont buy shit from FL.. the dealer that has the car now is selling it for 88k... I could've kept the dam thing and made a huge chunk. It pays to pay attention.


Vista is 4 mins from my house, i absolutely hate them. I hope it burns down. Lauderale, can be competitive, although i haven't tried to deal with them for this new M3 for my brother.

[Dolemite79]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

I leased the Z, probably had to go out of state to find it ofc, because i dont buy shit from FL.. the dealer that has the car now is selling it for 88k... I could've kept the dam thing and made a huge chunk. It pays to pay attention.


Vista is 4 mins from my house, i absolutely hate them. I hope it burns down. Lauderale, can be competitive, although i haven't tried to deal with them for this new M3 for my brother.

I bought both of my vettes from Bomnin, and each time i got a killer deal but yea i wont do business with vista period.

[TrevorM3]

for those of you who are trying to order a car, are you coming to some sort of an agreement with your dealer as to what kind of discount they are (or will be) giving you at the time of delivery? Obviously programs change each month, and it is what it is, but the discount is up to the dealer.. how do you navigate this? No way i'm paying 1300 for a 90k car based off terrible programs.

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

for those of you who are trying to order a car, are you coming to some sort of an agreement with your dealer as to what kind of discount they are (or will be) giving you at the time of delivery? Obviously programs change each month, and it is what it is, but the discount is up to the dealer.. how do you navigate this? No way i'm paying 1300 for a 90k car based off terrible programs.

It seems that 99% of those that do finally get their dealer to give a discount then proceed to never get an allocation. Dealers don't need to give a discount in this market so if they agree to one chances are you are going on the standby list in case the demand tanks. Just about every make of car is going to full MSRP these days.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Gfit

It seems that 99% of those that do finally get their dealer to give a discount then proceed to never get an allocation. Dealers don't need to give a discount in this market so if they agree to one chances are you are going on the standby list in case the demand tanks. Just about every make of car is going to full MSRP these days.

the reason i ask is because i'm also looking for an x5 for my mother. So a dealer suggested i order one. I said ok... but i'm not paying 900 for a 68k car (when i say "I" i mean my father) he says, "not a problem this market is terrible i wouldn't either, let's build a truck and when it gets here we'll discuss"

So i did spec one out, and he did build it, and i do have a prod # already... I made it clear with the ground rules.. i want the car, i dont need it... I just dont want him to waste his time.


So of course i mentioned the M3 for my brother also, which he admitted he does not have an allocation but will put me on for his first one when they come out in about 2-3 weeks...

[Transfer]

Everything everywhere is MSRP. Good luck out there.

[bighamsterneck]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Everything everywhere is MSRP. Good luck out there.

MSRP is a "deal" in so cal right now. Most dealers are marking up $5-10K, and with recent news of further chip shortage, this isn't going to get any better soon.

[iqstick]

Originally Posted by bighamsterneck

MSRP is a "deal" in so cal right now. Most dealers are marking up $5-10K, and with recent news of further chip shortage, this isn't going to get any better soon.

I talked to about 5 different dealers in So Cal and all of them wanted $10k for an ordered car and the two that had a car in stock wanted $15k for the one on the floor. I was able to order at MSRP. Anticipating a production number the next allocation rounds as they had none available. This was last Saturday.

[bighamsterneck]

Originally Posted by iqstick

I talked to about 5 different dealers in So Cal and all of them wanted $10k for an ordered car and the two that had a car in stock wanted $15k for the one on the floor. I was able to order at MSRP. Anticipating a production number the next allocation rounds as they had none available. This was last Saturday.

Glad to hear that you were able to get a build at MSRP. I was working with a broker, that had an allocation for build, and the mark up was $2K. Estimated about 3 months ETA. I somewhat need a car soon, so I was able to secure a hold on an alpine white that is arriving in 1-2 weeks, at MSRP. I really wanted a brook grey with red interior, but that BMW said they sold it for $20K above MSRP. =/

[myfirstm]

Originally Posted by Gfit

It seems that 99% of those that do finally get their dealer to give a discount then proceed to never get an allocation. Dealers don't need to give a discount in this market so if they agree to one chances are you are going on the standby list in case the demand tanks. Just about every make of car is going to full MSRP these days.

Im surprised more people aren't buying. Lease makes zero sense. At least with .9 % financing you can pay the car down and sell if you want. Lease you're stuck with the monster payment and nothing left to show at the end.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by myfirstm

Im surprised more people aren't buying. Lease makes zero sense. At least with .9 % financing you can pay the car down and sell if you want. Lease you're stuck with the monster payment and nothing left to show at the end.

lets not start this topic, for the love of god.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by myfirstm

Im surprised more people aren't buying. Lease makes zero sense. At least with .9 % financing you can pay the car down and sell if you want. Lease you're stuck with the monster payment and nothing left to show at the end.

….unless you decide to keep it. Leasing can make sense. I've known people to negotiate with BMW during the buyout process as well.

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by myfirstm

Im surprised more people aren't buying. Lease makes zero sense. At least with .9 % financing you can pay the car down and sell if you want. Lease you're stuck with the monster payment and nothing left to show at the end.

Please don't.

[MavRick]

Originally Posted by myfirstm

Im surprised more people aren't buying. Lease makes zero sense. At least with .9 % financing you can pay the car down and sell if you want. Lease you're stuck with the monster payment and nothing left to show at the end.

sold our '19 M4 in april for $8k over lease payoff...

[kingmonkeyjr]

I have a base M3 I'd let go of for the right down payment.

$836/month includes CA Tax

Brooklyn Grey/Silverstone 79k sticker

[gohawks23]

Originally Posted by kingmonkeyjr

I have a base M3 I'd let go of for the right down payment.

$836/month includes CA Tax

Brooklyn Grey/Silverstone 79k sticker

Why would you let go? What don't you like?

[forza1976]

Originally Posted by Dolemite79

correct, it is a standard MSRP deal, just cant decide if it's too much and i should wait or move forward now to maximize the profit on my z06

Sell sell sell.

It's cooling off:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ies/index.html

[TrevorM3]

haha^

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

for those of you who are trying to order a car, are you coming to some sort of an agreement with your dealer as to what kind of discount they are (or will be) giving you at the time of delivery? Obviously programs change each month, and it is what it is, but the discount is up to the dealer.. how do you navigate this? No way i'm paying 1300 for a 90k car based off terrible programs.

I've sent my ideal deal on my proposed build to my CA (literally sent him the leasehackr calcs) and he said that should be doable. So we're operating under the verbal understanding that this car will be discounted regardless of the programs at time of lock in. I know it's not in writing but I am not expecting any funny business based on my relationship with the CA and Sales Manager. YMMV.