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If BMW built a car to cater to the GTR audience it would be a money loser big time. Sure it would be awesome but wouldn't sell as well as the current model and would certainly be a heck of a lot more expensive. 10 years ago the GTR was $40,000 more than the current M3 is so if the M3 had an adjusted target price of say $175,000 we would have a different car.
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07-16-2021, 10:13 AM | #24 |
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New GTR's are doing the 1/4 at 11.2? The last I saw Evolve's stock G80 did an 11.7. Will they be equal when the xDrive version is released? Gotta think so.
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The NSX for daily use is shockingly fluid and the electronics really assist in the entrance and exit of turns with the immediate tq add. But the car does sound like shit for a V6 TT... I modded mine with 100 cell cats though. And his point about the seats was spot on. The NSX seats, while only have limited power adjustments, are hyper comfy.
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But around the city, shit the car was great and the msrp price point while high, was not what most were buying new (40k underish).
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When I got mine, there was no piggy either back in the latter part of 2018. I do miss those magnetorheological dampers; unbelievable comfort and flow on even the worst roads. Edit: about that whistle, so sexy yo and so prevalent with the 100 cells.
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07-16-2021, 12:45 PM | #32 | |
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Nope. I don't think the M3, either version, actually needs more power. If it WAS a GT-R, then maybe so since the GT-R is, as you said, so lacking in "one car to do all" features. Then I'd be buying a track and bragging-rights car, not my daily driver. Look, to make this clear - I don't think most people should have cars faster than this. Drivers, including those of us on this forum, are, by and large, not as good as we think we are behind the wheel. Fast cars have serious exceeded most drivers' ability to handle them and react to mistakes or unexpected occurrences. If that's not you, you are the exception and only you and your willingness to be honest with yourself can answer that question. The average, or even slightly above average, driver should not be driving a Model 3 Performance. They aren't good enough to deal with it. That driver also shouldn't be driving 400+ HP ICE cars. But power has gotten so cheap that many of them do. Thankfully, much of the weight gain of modern cars includes structural and active safety features. Folk need them. In addition to that issue, the amount of time we have to enjoy our cars before we're exceeding safe and/or legal limits is getting so short that I feel that the industry is doing us all a disservice in pursuit of numbers for marketing. I'm not a "slow car fast" human, but I don't see much use in a 0-60 below 3 seconds, either. Except for track and bragging-rights usage. Totally fine if you think I'm nuts, but I DO think they brought this car to the market with the right amount of power...or close to it. If someone else needs more power out of it, I suppose that's what the tuning market is for (while it's still legal...sigh..). Hope that clarifies my views...not expecting anyone to abandon their differing views. Sorry for the thread hijack, OP. |
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You spend significant time in a forum for a car you don't own nor have serious plans to own and you spend practically all of that time spreading somewhat-subtle negativity about what has been repeatedly declared by owners and reviewers as a great performance car. Take a gander in the mirror.
Everyone knows what a GTR is; no need to defend it nor assert over and over that it's faster than the $40k cheaper G8x. |
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I'd take a gt350r all day over a GTR. Or if you're into soulless cars, just get a model 3 instead of the GTR. They have about the same soul and power.
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I do like the 350R. Just not a Mustang fan, never have been. Just so many on the road. One of my favorite cars to smoke. Stang/Vettes
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