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It was always the best at what it was meant to be- ie ....a small, compact sports coupè/saloon.
In 2021 its leveraging its heritage but very little resembalance to what made it an icon, todays its just a big expensive car with a badge from a different era, though likely to still be successful but not because if it being iconic |
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01-21-2021, 12:43 PM | #3 |
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M2 has inherited the original intent.
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01-21-2021, 01:28 PM | #4 |
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Same reason any other vehicle gains legendary status - a tradition of offering an outstanding driving and ownership experience, a history of excelling in areas that excite, and consistently offering a class leading performance.
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The original M3 and each following iteration was exactly the same as the car today, similar in size, content, and weight to its peers. Then juiced up by M to offer more street/track performance without over compromising its position as an everyday luxury car. Too many traditionalists on this board just point to their favorite date in history and say "THAT IS THE REAL M3, all others are less real". |
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What is this but "contempt prior to investigation?"
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01-21-2021, 03:01 PM | #9 |
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Sorry guys but theres zero connection today between what the M3 originally stood for.
The M2 is the M3 of icon period. |
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I moved on. I drove most of the M cars and owned a few of them when they were new. Every generation was better than the prior IMO. As much as I love the iconic E30 M3 I don't care to own one today. A good buddy of mine has 3 of them. To each his own.
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Regarding OP's question, the M3 is the car that defined the essence of BMW and every model shared a certain driving character that kept customers and the media addicted to them. Similar to how the 911 defines Porsche, the S-class to Mercedes, and the Range Rover to Land Rover.
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01-21-2021, 07:28 PM | #15 |
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No the same logic does not since the 911 has always been a rear-engined car whereas the Cayman is not. It's a fair point about the growth in size of the 911 (997 was the sweet spot) but fundamentally the 911 has not been replaced.
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You can't begin to measure the enthusiasm and excitement the community has for the M2 vs the M3.
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01-21-2021, 07:32 PM | #17 |
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If you dig, you'll find the Boxter/Cayman to be the spiritual successor to the 914/6
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One thing missing from the discussion is that the average human ass has grown over the past few decades so it is only appropriate that their cars have grown a little to accommodate accordingly. LOL
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The 3er / M3 also has not been replaced by anything, it is still there. So only some people are stating it has been replaced because thst is their view, and in todays world, it seems that people need to complain about every thing possible they could see. I'm already waiting on the complains on the next M2, and what will replace it, as it is clear that the next M2 will grow in size as well, which every new and modern car nowadays is doing. We don't have any reviews so far, only 1,2 videos, and these do not say anything like, not a M as we know, it is the other way around, they are impressed and statement are: An M in every way we know M cars...but a lot of complains here are bashing the car about so many things, and the majority has not seen the car in real, despite having driven one, seems that a lot of people are not liking the design and translate then their disappointment in bashing all other things about the car. However, I own a M2 currently, was lucky to testdrive an M4C a week ago and just ordered one 2 days ago. And there are plenty cars out there, new ones, old ones. If you don't like something about the new M3, move on, but don't complain in every second thread about the car. The complains won't change the car anyway to your liking... (This is not towards you, just a general statement) |
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The M3 is loved as it's a single car that works to go to the racetrack, to go to buy groceries, to go pick your kids up from school, go to home depot, go skiing and to do long trips. You can do pretty much everything in an M3.
What other car can you say this about? More than one person on the board has moved to a 'dedicated sports car platform' only to return, because it is not realistic to have a 2 seater as your only car. If you go to American Endurance Racing you find almost all the cars are M3s. So many different sporty cars have been built by so many brands, yet you go to grassroots racing and you see BMW after BMW. Another nice thing about the M3 is you are given a very solid chassis and engine. Changing brakes and suspension nets you a very competitive platform for heavy track use at a much cheaper price than a Pcar. I remember many years ago when I started tracking there was a husband and wife couple that had two matching 1980 Porsche Cup Cars and a collection of ~40 cars. Huge car people. They had mechanics with them and other friends. Over dinner, someone brought up which car would different people have if they could only have one car. People went talking about Bentleys, etc etc. Eventually it came to the guy, owner of a 40 car collection, with more money than everyone else at that event combined, who said he'd have an M3 for the same reasons I mentioned in the first sentence.
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From the E46 to the G80, the M3 has grown exactly 12" in 18 years. C'mon, it aint even that bad!
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Anyone wanna do an analysis of the historical progression of size, performance, and price of the M3 relative to C63 and RS5?
Not it
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