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Interested to see the final product.
BMW wins if they still produce a 6MT By that time, auto is gonna be sharper, less wait, less maintenance, and smoother than DCT; I assume
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Torque argument for an inline-6 G80 M3 is bull crap as it won't be anywhere near 700Nm that F10 M5s have.
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(X)-Drive... fitting name for those who can't drive
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that's some gift for "strict interpretation" you have sir. You remind me of a law school professor I had lol.
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Current F90 M5's is used in the x5m, x6m, 7 series, regular x5/x6, Guilia Quadriwhatever, RAM 1500, Aston Martin's etc. I don't know why that guy is even comparing this vs development costs of a brand new DCT used by only BMW (a la current GETRAG M-DCT) source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
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"For those running a DCT transmission we've found the factory clutch packs are only good for around 640whp before they start slipping. If you are planning for more power than this plan to upgrade to Dodson or SSP clutch packs sooner or later. " BMW cannot mass produce these cars with the current dct without affecting reliability and maintain smoothness and driveability. There's no way they will warranty that car for 4 years much less with people modding it and just destroying the clutch. http://www.burgertuning.com/s63tu_m5_m6_bmw_jb4.html
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depends at what RPM the power is produced. It is limited to 700N-m (516lb-ft) so it could theoretically handle 747hp @7600RPM.
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1. More power. Don't need it; realistically I don't use all of the F80's power. 2. Bigger. Don't want it. 3. Lighter - that is always a good thing, but I won't notice 50 - 100 lbs. 4. Better traction? That is the possible lynch pin, but with more torque and RWD only, doubt it.
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Ive never hit anyone so its not impossible to deal with, but its not a relaxed around town cruiser, thats for sure. And the car is not meant to be, I get that. I had a 430GC sport loaner the other day, within no time, I was pulling right up behind others, coming to a smooth stop just feet from their bumper. Id Never try that in my M as its so unpredictable where its actually going to stop and won't be nearly as smooth. Im sure its just me and the car. Sadly, my next car won't be an M for many of these reasons. But at least I got to have one once finally
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That said... maybe its just the DSG tuning in the M3 (or for example when ford had the powershift DSG and it was awful..) I have a b9 A4 right now and compared to my f30 it doesn't really seem much different as far as getting going and stopping. It doesn't have as much "creep" as the zf8 since its programmed in, but you get used to it. |
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But I feel like those small annoyances are worth it when you get to shift crisply through the gears (up or down, and especially coming to a stop light). The F80 gives you a lot of variability in how hard you can make those shifts, and I love it. It's definitely more brutal in that way than my PDK was, but the PDK was a little smoother. Both are great in my opinion, and it's sad the Ms are moving away from this aspect of the experience...
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You have to drive them line you do a motorcycle. If you blip the throttle and let off to let the clutch engage, then apply small amounts of throttle it won't buck. If you just apply a bit of throttle and hold there until the clutch engages it will engage and lurch. Easy to work out for me.
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