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KIA EV9 less energy efficient than Grand Highlander Hybrid
I saw a new KIA EV9 on the road last Friday. Looked cool. First one I've seen, but I ran the numbers and wasn't impressed. It's actually less energy efficient than a Grand Highlander Hybrid, and is only slightly more energy efficient than their own Telluride. I did all of these calculations myself. You have to use real-world MPGe or range numbers, because claimed EV ranges especially on the highway are complete lies, on top of MPGe itself also being a lie. The Highlander Hybrid's 40% thermal efficiency (peak) is factored into its own MPG numbers, but the 40% overall efficiency of the power grid is not factored into MPGe for EV's? It's such BS, but that's on purpose and they hope you don't notice. C&D's real-world 75 mph highway range and MPGe numbers, which includes charging inefficiency and total energy put back into the battery, and not just energy consumed while driving, has been quite useful. Anyways, good luck with an EV9. I mean if you're just shuttling larger numbers of people/gear/dogs or whatever locally and never really leave town I guess it could work, but why pay more for less capability? The reality is on a highway trip somewhere, you're not even making it to 240. Try more like 200-220 fully loaded with AC or heat running, and not really making it more than 2 hours without needing to find your next charging stop ASAP, where you'll only be able to charge back up to 80% quickly, and then get another 2 hours of range at best? We've legit gone 6 hours in my Suburban and emptied three-quarters of the tank before stopping for bathroom breaks and dog walks. Fill the 31.5 gallon tank in a few minutes and go another 600+ miles. I don't see how you'd ever get anywhere in an EV9. It would drive my entire family insane. Creating a factor for weight is helpful and illustrating. As you can see on the far right, the EV9's powertrain is indeed more efficient at moving masses of vehicle around, but not more efficient enough to compensate for being 1400 lbs heavier than the Grand Highlanders. It ends up consuming more energy because of its weight, which is a similar story for many EV's vs. gas or hybrids, which is why they needed to create new ways to lie with the MPGe BS. So the battery weights are a huge issue. For reference, 20 gallons of gas weighs about 120 pounds, and will get you twice as far as a 1400 lb battery. Interestingly, a fully loaded Suburban utilizing all of its space is consuming more energy, yes, but consumes less energy per unit of vehicle mass than either the Grand Highlander or the Telluride. Pro tip. Take any MPGe figure and divide by 2.5 (or multiple by 0.4) to get the gas/hybrid MPG equivalent figure. I call this the "grid factor" for power grid efficiency, which must be factored in also to have a level playing field.
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Just a little overweight, LOL. This guy was spotted by multiple people towing across several SE states. When fishing is life I guess, you do what it takes. I wonder how many charger locations made him unhook and hook?
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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It is good to maximize my FEARS list. I look forward to fearing EV charger hacking. I don't want to miss out on fearing something.
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GM is moving out of its Detroit headquarters towers
Apr 15th 2024 General Motors plans to relocate its global headquarters to the new Hudson’s Detroit complex in 2025, abandoning its iconic Renaissance Center location. GM's occupancy of the RenCen towers has shrunk over the years, meaning it now occupies just 1˝ of the towers in the seven-building complex. https://www.autoblog.com/2024/04/15/...arters-towers/ Translation-GM is cost cutting. Mary Barra continues to kill GM. Investing $1,000 in General Motors: Shares of General Motors opened for trading at $39.63 on the day Barra took over as the CEO of the company. Accounting for dividends paid over the years, the shares traded at an adjusted price of $30.15. They should just admit it and move to China and Mexico. |
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If you have watched the Equalizer 2, you will know.
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