03-09-2021, 05:19 PM | #23 |
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I also had an m3 cs . I’m still in the break in period.... but the m2 cs feels way slower, worse steering feel... but something about it feels special... maybe all the great reviews.....or maybe it’s my first manual in 5 years!!!! Idk
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So you are buying a drivers cars / sports car and you don’t wanna feel the the road... ok
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03-09-2021, 08:10 PM | #27 |
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opposite opinion here - I came from an LCI 18 M3 comp DCT to a manual m2 CS and while I haven't broken the car in yet, my m3 had the CS+ tune and I don't feel the m2 cs is any slower.. confusing! much more nimble and definitely more special feeling
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Edit: Nvm... Still the G8x is not a sports car to me, it will be my daily. The daily I take to work, getting food, road trips, the daily I wash in a 12$ automatic car wash. It's not that I chase seconds on the Nordschleife. M Cars are always pretty good all-rounder to me. If you want a real sports car, plenty of other manufacturer do a better job than BMW, they never meant to be a hardcore performance car. Last edited by LOW4LYF; 03-09-2021 at 09:20 PM.. |
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Big pass; I wouldn't do that to a used volvo wagon never mind a brand new M3. I guess M3 is no different than a rental. I'm not there yet. |
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It's not like the dealer will return me some money for washing it by hand. Been there, not worth it... |
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I'm also in this camp n of 2 now!
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03-10-2021, 10:23 AM | #34 |
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In my previous experience reading reviews versus driving cars, clutch feel is too subjective for me to worry about what anyone else thinks (certainly not intended to offend you OP).
The F80 manual with a clutch stop was one of my favorites and people were kinda split on it.
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If you are leasing, you can’t beat the M cars.
If you are buying, $85K should buy you a 5-6 year old Porsche GTS with 30K miles or so, maybe. For newer models (1–2 year old), you are into $100K and up. And you are still on 991’s, never mind the brand new 992’s |
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Most don't buy a Porsche for drag races. In fact, folks didn't used to buy BMWs to drag race. My E46 ZHP only had 235hp, LOL....(though it easily holds record for BMW I owned the longest).
Markets changed and so has BMW. What's stayed consistent is BMW outperforming its class, and it appears they have served up another winner with the G80 |
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Thanks for the review. The potato comment concerns me - this is comparing it to the M2, or to a Porsche, or something else?
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BMW needs to do a lot better with their steering calibration. The steering in cars like the Giulia, Boxster, Macan, and even Cayenne feels so much more naturally-weighted and provide a good sense of the front end without fatiguing the driver. I don't feel the steering on any of those cars is stiff or uncomfortable enough to scare off buyers. BMW has shown with their stiff suspensions on vehicles like the G20 and most M models that they do want the cars to feel sporting. Why they refuse to improve their steering baffles me.
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BMW steering, shifter feel and clutch are junk, news at 11. When has it NOT been this way? E46? Long, rubbery, vague throws, artificially heavy steering, etc.
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