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You’re absolutely right. When I came to Germany 2.5 years ago I brought my E92 along with me and although I took a few chances driving fast in the states, being able to consistently get the car to 5000 RPM and keep it there has been wonderful. Really dreading going back next May lol. |
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But to my tastes--which seem to align somewhat with yours, based on what you've said--yes. The Macan has a shorter wheelbase, a wider track, much better steering feedback, PDK instead of the tepid ZF8 (what I would do for a MT in both, but even in that hypothetical case you'd be putting Porsche's overtly precise and mechanical boxes against BMW's perpetually rubbery throws and vague clutch uptake; same outcome), and mechanical instrumentation (augmented with a digital in-dash display that offers exactly what you actually need and nothing else); it's just more focused, driver-centric, and visceral in the ways that I think matter. Both could use more charismatic engines, but as-is it's a wash. While I wish the Macan was a sedan--or that Porsche made a sedan in that size--I wouldn't even say the higher CoG is necessarily a negative for the sort of spirited driving that most people actually do. You'll feel more of the forces that the car is generating when you're flinging it around a bit (I actually preferred the M5C over the M8C on track for exactly that reason; the seating position is higher and farther forward which makes a significant difference in otherwise isolated/numb vehicles like those).
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I'm coming to the conclusion that I want an M3. Or an M2. |
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12-06-2020, 09:09 AM | #28 |
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If you start checking out Macan, be prepared for slow. A Macan Turbo is about the same pace as M340i, for like 50% more cost.
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agree... in my process i cross shopped with a Macan GTS, which while 10k cheaper in MSRP for well equipped specs, the lease payment works out to about same level as a G8X would in Canada due to bad residuals on the Macan
While a relative bargain looking at Porsches in a vaccum (assuming you can tune the 2.9TT engine to RS5 level and beyond easily), it's essentially a X3 M40i competitor that costs X3MC money, really hard pill to swallow ... and no way would a rational cross shopper pick one vs a G8X unless they want the Porsche badge and the (limited) extra practicality ..
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I find that the steering feel and handling is much better in an M car than an M Performance car. I definitely prefer an M for daily driving. My M still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
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If it's a bit of a money stretch to get there, you may not see the value in it because the personal cost is so high.... but if you don't need to budget your life around the car, then you'll definitely appreciate what the M3 has to offer.
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I've driven the M340i and it was quick but it honestly didn't give me enough comfort or features to make it more enjoyable as a DD over even my old F80. I can imagine the G80 will be an even more uneven comparison. The M340i doesn't have that edge that an M car has. It's just not as exciting.
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Well I canceled my order for the M3 and got the 2021 M340Xi which was my original order back on October. The 2021 M340xi is a fantastic car it feels like a sport car and the steering is so precise, no play at all and I can feel the tires turning better than my old 2010 E60 which had a hydraulic system. I know I'm no expert on sport cars but for me is hard to believe that the M3 can be that much better than this M340, maybe in 3 years or so with dealer discount and incentives I might consider one, but for now I have a big smile in my face when I drive this amazing car.
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Imo and likely everyone else the M340i is quiet the best car you can get in the segment it is in. Of course the M3 will be better in every aspect, but it will cost more. But if you want a quick DD with comfort you never do anything wrong with the M340i. To be honest i was considering also to buy one...but as soon as they announced the M3 with MT my decision was the M3. The M2CS was also a consideration but yeah, I want a 4 Door Sedan. |
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However, I also have an X3 and an E92 M3 ZCP 6MT in the stable, so my decision was different than maybe it would be for someone else.
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You buy an M car not just because its performance envelope is higher. The improved looks alone is a big factor. An M340 is nice but it does not have the presence of an M car and really just camouflages in. The exhaust sound, stiffer ride, etc are all part or they experience. If you don't find those things important then there is no reason to shop an M car. The M340 is a great daily driver that will just eat up miles quietly.
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I've been trying to sell my M2C 6MT while I am waiting for the G80 M3 6MT. In the meantime I am driving a M340i xDrive.
The M2C has everything I want in a sports car. It is the perfect size. The M340i is the a perfectly capable car, but it's so boring to drive. The 8ZF is smooth, the powerband is linear; but I'm bored of it. The iDrive 7 is smart, having the HUD is nice, and having the dual zone climate control with the SYNC button is so much better than not having one on the M2C; but the non-M sport seat isn't supportive enough for me. The stock wheels/tires seem a bit too small/not wide enough for this car of this power (225/255). Overall, this car is capable and adequete, but it just does not bring the same happiness & excitement when I start the M2C and drive it. I drive the M2C every 10 days or so now, and I just get his big grin. It's this reason that I love M cars.
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