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      11-09-2023, 05:16 PM   #133
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Received a test sample of the upcoming PnP harness for the Awron CanFlap
Thank you for listening and making a plug and play harness just like i asked https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=30

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Best you not participate in the thread, since you have nothing productive to add to it. Take your negativity elsewhere.
I'm not the one making false claims about a feature in a product.
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Received a test sample of the upcoming PnP harness for the Awron CanFlap we'll be installing shortly, this will be offered as an optional add-on to the CanFlap kits and will not require any underhood access. Instead of connecting at the DME signal inputs, this will be routed to the EVC valve connections directly.

No difference in features - only the installation procedure.

Harness assembly is an area where Awron shines, all connections are automotive grade and properly protected/insulated, just like OEM.

Will order when this is in stock, don't want to mess around with my M3 too much
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      11-10-2023, 01:50 AM   #135
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Received a test sample of the upcoming PnP harness for the Awron CanFlap we'll be installing shortly, this will be offered as an optional add-on to the CanFlap kits and will not require any underhood access. Instead of connecting at the DME signal inputs, this will be routed to the EVC valve connections directly.

No difference in features - only the installation procedure.

Harness assembly is an area where Awron shines, all connections are automotive grade and properly protected/insulated, just like OEM.

Big thanks for doing this.
This should come with it from Awron, will buy when released.

Does this integrate with the M1/M2 steering wheel buttons so exhaust settings on these buttons still work and integrate with Awron settings?
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      11-10-2023, 03:38 AM   #136
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I love all the features of the Awron unit, but no way was I going to splice DME wires, so for me, this would 100% get me over the line.
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      11-10-2023, 12:09 PM   #137
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Big thanks for doing this.
This should come with it from Awron, will buy when released.

Does this integrate with the M1/M2 steering wheel buttons so exhaust settings on these buttons still work and integrate with Awron settings?
The installation is actually simpler with the current configuration, since it's a much shorter route to the DME than to the EVC valves.

The exhaust valves are controlled by the OEM Sound control button on the center console. M1/M2 buttons are reserved for a "panic" feature which will close the valves at an instant - this is used more overseas where some speed cameras are also equipped with microphones. The word "Trigger" will appear on the instrument cluster to inform you that you are in this mode. This and exhaust profiles are explained a bit more in detail in the OP.

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      11-10-2023, 12:10 PM   #138
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Exactly what I was wanting. No splicing and OEM functionality. +1 for me when this kit is released.
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Two questions:

1) Is there any reason why you can't run with valves open 100% of the time in any mode?

2) If the answer to #1 is no, then why would people want to open and close it? Why not just have it opened permanently? Is there no way to do that?
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Two questions:

1) Is there any reason why you can't run with valves open 100% of the time in any mode?

2) If the answer to #1 is no, then why would people want to open and close it? Why not just have it opened permanently? Is there no way to do that?
What you're describing isn't valve control, but disabling it. Might as well unplug the valves at that point.
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What you're describing isn't valve control, but disabling it. Might as well unplug the valves at that point.
I'm just trying to figure out the point of controlling it I guess. Why would anyone want it closed to begin with?
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I'm just trying to figure out the point of controlling it I guess. Why would anyone want it closed to begin with?
Some prefer having a sleeper and not attracting attention at all time.

It could be the person that gets up for work at 4am, or driving by that motorcycle cop with the radar gun pointed at you, or driving out to a fancy dinner with the wife - sometimes you just want to keep things civil. On the flip side - you're at the next Cars & Coffee, or a tunnel is coming up ahead - press the button and let it rip.

You have the option to go from mild to wild at the press of a button. A true Wolf in Sheep's Clothing.
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Ahhh, got it. Thanks. Then let me ask this, is it bad to leave the valves for an extended period of time, or over a certain speed limit?
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Ahhh, got it. Thanks. Then let me ask this, is it bad to leave the valves for an extended period of time, or over a certain speed limit?
Closed all the time, not good. The Awron unit has safety measures in place to prevent this from ever happening.

Open all the time, won't hurt - just loud all the time.
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Closed all the time, not good. The Awron unit has safety measures in place to prevent this from ever happening.

Open all the time, won't hurt - just loud all the time.
Is this going to be part of your black friday sale this year? If so can you dm me a shipped price to 33976. Thanks!!
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ETA on the new wiring harness?
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      11-20-2023, 12:45 PM   #147
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ETA on the new wiring harness?
No ETA at the moment, sorry. Will provide an more details when a PnP harness option is available.
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No ETA at the moment, sorry.
Appreciate you guys for offering this, as it's great to have options, but in your opinion, isn't this method of install more tedious? It seems more panels would have to be removed to route wires and either a floor jack/jackstands or lift would be necessary.

Personally, I didn't find the current method of install to be difficult at all. The wiring diagram was confusing and had me second guessing, but with your assistance, there were no problems. The only part which I mentioned somewhere was that there was little room in the passenger footwell area to maneuver around the carpet. The splicing of wires was not a factor at all, as long as you are competent in wiring/soldering. If the unit was ever removed, I doubt anyone would know it was there. I don't know why many are so apprehensive about splicing the wires.

I have no complaints with this product. Just waiting on those steering wheel control functions.
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Appreciate you guys for offering this, as it's great to have options, but in your opinion, isn't this method of install more tedious? It seems more panels would have to be removed to route wires and either a floor jack/jackstands or lift would be necessary.

Personally, I didn't find the current method of install to be difficult at all. The wiring diagram was confusing and had me second guessing, but with your assistance, there were no problems. The only part which I mentioned somewhere was that there was little room in the passenger footwell area to maneuver around the carpet. The splicing of wires was not a factor at all, as long as you are competent in wiring/soldering. If the unit was ever removed, I doubt anyone would know it was there. I don't know why many are so apprehensive about splicing the wires.

I have no complaints with this product. Just waiting on those steering wheel control functions.
You're right on the money. It's a good question, with a bit of a loaded answer.

The PnP harness will take a little more time to install, as there will be additional steps involved in wire routing.

The Awron module sits at the BDC (Body Domain Controller) module, which is located in the passenger side footwell, where it grabs its power and communication from. 2 additional signal wires are routed into the engine compartment and do into the DME signal wires (which actively control the EVC valves) in current form. Harness is is a smaller form factor (less materials) and the installation is quicker. With the PnP harness, install is technically "easier", but involves the extra step of routing a harness all the way back to the EVC valves. If handing the kit to an installer, the non-PnP version would be a quicker installation, resulting in less overall cost.

Features are identical between the kits as only the harnesses are different, thus the installation procedure is different. For those that find their comfort level a bit better with a PnP harness, their time will be coming soon.
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I bought the module initially and got scared of the install and ended up returning. I'll be reordering the PnP whenever it's available.

I've had terrible experiences with spliced wires in the past. If I wasn't on the opposite coast I'd trust EAS to install it but as it stands, I'm good.
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You're right on the money. It's a good question, with a bit of a loaded answer.

The PnP harness will take a little more time to install, as there will be additional steps involved in wire routing.

The Awron module sits at the BDC (Body Domain Controller) module, which is located in the passenger side footwell, where it grabs its power and communication from. 2 additional signal wires are routed into the engine compartment and do into the DME signal wires (which actively control the EVC valves) in current form. Harness is is a smaller form factor (less materials) and the installation is quicker. With the PnP harness, install is technically "easier", but involves the extra step of routing a harness all the way back to the EVC valves. If handing the kit to an installer, the non-PnP version would be a quicker installation, resulting in less overall cost.

Features are identical between the kits as only the harnesses are different, thus the installation procedure is different. For those that find their comfort level a bit better with a PnP harness, their time will be coming soon.
Any updated ETA on the PNP harness?
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Where do the wires at the ecu run to? Is there a way u can tap into them further down stream?

Or anyone have a copy of the vehicle manual so I can track it down. Trq specs for everything would be sweet too
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Where do the wires at the ecu run to? Is there a way u can tap into them further down stream?

Or anyone have a copy of the vehicle manual so I can track it down. Trq specs for everything would be sweet too
Most accessible location would be at the DME where the instructions indicated, as the harness is bundled further downstream.
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Any updated ETA on the PNP harness?
Ditto. I really like the functionality of this product vs. the garage door opener valve controllers however I'm not keen on splicing wires underhood. I don't mind running wires to the back if it's truly plug and play. When this functionality exists I'll likely get this controller, but not until ten.

Tom, any news?
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