[Boss330]

Wow! The new M3 and M4 looks are really good and aggressive, and so much more modern than the outgoing F8x!

The F8x suddenly looks tame and dated... I never thought that would happen, as I love how the F80 M3 looks.

This is a bold step, but I must say I just love how aggressive and new the front end looks. Especially in the videos out there.

Btw I currently drive a 6-series Gran Coupe which is IMO one of BMW's best modern designs. But this new design really impressed me. Much more so than what I thought it would based on the long build up to this reveal.

[gatorfast]

I definitely dont hate it but agree with many that the exterior features are too extreme. It looks a bit juvenile and has a jdm import vibe. I may have outgrown the M3 appearance at this point in my life. Although, when I look at the online configurator with exterior color in black it does look a lot better as it hides many of the ricer elements.

Exterior looks aside, the interior looks to be top notch and a big step up from the F80. The growing list of options for things like cf buckets and small things like changing the brake caliper color is also very welcome and is a page out of the Porsche playbook. However, with so many variations being offered it will certainly make it more difficult to find one sitting on a dealer lot that meets your individual spec.

[Big boi m5]

Not going to lie, the M4 looks pretty damn good at Indy in those pics. Hope Penske gets a sports car race so we can see the GT3 version there.

[bjcarls]

I liked/supported the spy photos, I disliked the launch photos yesterday and I'm back to liking the front-end, love the side profile and liking the rear end.
Will I buy one? No, with the weight going up, I'd just buy a X3M and have more useful space.
I feel like BMW gave up trying to reduce weight on this pig, as least try with a CF engine brace...it looks so good.

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

No CFRP brace, no CFRP trunk(presumably), no CFRP driveshaft, steel everywhere, you name more. They cancelled DCT because of cost, easy to assume they spent ZERO effort on weight reduction. What a shame.

That's my biggest disappointment in seeing this. They didn't even try to keep weight in check.

[RyanBMW]

And people were talking crap about Chris Bangle back then lmao..looks like this clown Markus has defeated him

[fricfracfrank]

A crude photoshop just for fun.

[KINY3RA]

Doesn't it look pretty, in the wild? The G80's really going to wear this new colour so well.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by FrankieNuo

The Exhaust is underwhelming to say the least.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFeT-NbK...d=76zqjjv10j0k

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFeSB1Lq...d=5eqql9d4a6on

Don't forget that that's the European model that has OPF and has to meet the new new EU noise regulations (essentially cannot be louder than a fiesta). It will sound much better in the US like the US X3M does compared to the EU X3M.

[ptper]

Soooo, when can we expect to see leaked pics of the LCI version?

Asking for a friend.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

Just like the F8x generation, the rear of the M3 looks better than the M4 IMO.

This just looks... hefty. Like it's sagging in the middle from being overweight or something.



Much better

I like both, the M4 looks perfect for a coupe and M3 perfect for a sedan. Where both models obviously fall apart is the front and the soft character lines on the side.

[tke743]

Of course - "These seats also allow for multipoint seatbelts as a factory option, although that will not be offered in the US."

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Hegge

189 inches long is huge and longer than I thought (I figured "only" 187 inches). Also, peak torque on the Competition models does not come on until 2750 so probably poor low end torque and laggy at low speeds. These cars are overpriced crap.

Wow that's 7 inches longer than the E92...

[MachinesWithSouls]

Originally Posted by Puuhapete

lower torque on an M3 is meaningless, I am only interested what happens on mid and high revs. I loved my S65 even though it had crap torque at lover revs.

The key to driving that car fast was being mad at it all the time. Keep the revs above 5k on the track and it was plenty powerful.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by akhbhaat

Best guess: they don't have an MT in the parts bin that can handle the torque, and didn't want to invest in developing or sourcing one. So they dug up what they had and detuned the engine to make it work on the cheap.

The automatic is the real car and the one they expect (and want) to sell. It really just looks like the MT (base) version is an afterthought that they're probably just using to "prove" that they still build driver's cars for enthusiasts. I don't know why they bothered at all, because most real driving enthusiasts have bought the M2 or left the BMW brand entirely (me included; bought a Porsche this year after 17 years of exclusive BMW ownership and won't be going back).

Seems the suspension is the same for both cars...which was my primary concern. I will tune and get my base G80 to where I want it to be so I'm not too concerned about the power numbers.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by poweredbym

Some one posted this a while ago. I think there's potential for a big market.

Funny because in terms of diffusers, side skirts, carbon fiber bits, etc., bmw basically killed the aftermarket. The only value they could bring is fixes to a grille that will be prohibitively expensive to most.

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by KINY3RA

Doesn't it look pretty, in the wild? G80's really wearing this new colour so well.

I gotta admit, it does look pretty good there.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by FrankieNuo

The Exhaust is underwhelming to say the least.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFeT-NbK...d=76zqjjv10j0k

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFeSB1Lq...d=5eqql9d4a6on

This MPE sounds very similar to the F8x MPE on a stock tune.

[Avaley]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

This MPE sounds very similar to the F8x MPE on a stock tune.

there is more stringent emissions restrictions and a soft limiter on revs....

[RRedline]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

Grill talk aside, I also think it looks weird to have 19" tires on the front and 20" on the back. It's even worse having 18" up front and 19" on the back. The lack of symmetry really bothers my OCD lol.

This! So distracting with the different sidewall profiles.

Also, the weird plastic fender extensions on the M3 that look like they were borrowed from the X5. WTF?

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Wow that's 7 inches longer than the E92...

It's grown exactly one foot in 16 years since the E46...it could be a lot worse is how I look at it.

[neliconcept]

I can't even believe the ugliness this car has contracted like a virus. Put together like a puzzle from other car makers.